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Subject: Re: Fritz5's strange tablebase

Author: blass uri

Date: 07:29:24 02/06/99

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On February 06, 1999 at 10:08:41, James T. Walker wrote:

>On February 06, 1999 at 06:07:34, blass uri wrote:
>
>>6K1/6Q1/8/4q3/8/8/1p6/4k3 b - - 0 1
>>
>>Fritz5's tablebase says:
>>(-#2) Qxg7+ (-2) Qb8+ (-2)Qe8+ (-3)Qd5+ (-3)Qe6+ (-31)Qh2 (-36)Qb5
>>(0) b1B (0) b1Q (0) b1N (0) Kd1 (0) Qe2 (0) Qe3 (0) Qe4 (0) Qf4 (0) Qa5 (0) Qc5
>>(0) Qf5 (0) Qh5 (0) Qd6 (0) Qf6 (0) Qc7 (0) Kf1 (0) Kd2 (0) Kf2
>>(-#29) B1R (-#19) Qg5 (-#19) Qe7 (-#17) Qg3 (-#10) Qc3 (-#10) Qd4
>>(-#10) Ke2


I should write (#29) without - for b1R and the same for Qg5...


>>
>>
>>I have no problem with the move Qxg7+ but I do not understand the number 2.
>>It is clearly not distance to mate and not distance to conversion.
>>
>*********************
>Hello Uri,
>I get different numbers than yours.  I get (-1)Qxg7 which is correct.  I also
>get (-2)Qb8 which is also correct as far as I can tell.  It's two moves to
>conversion.  But this is with Fritz 5.32 and the Fritz 5.32 CD ROM.  With the
>Fritz 5.00 CD ROM I get really weird numbers and the program ask for the CD on
>every move.  This all started since the last SP1 update.
>**********************
>
>>I also do not understand why the mistake in the evaluation of b1B and b1N
>
>**************
>>Are you sure KQN vs KQ is not a draw?  Same with KQB vs KQ ??

I am sure that after b1B Qxe5+ the KQ vs KB is not a draw.
The same for b1N.
It is interesting that Fritz5 understood that b1R is losing but did not
understand that b1B or B1N are losing.

>***************
>
>>Fritz5's tablebase say also in the following position:8/8/8/8/1p2Q2K/q7/1k6/8 b
>>- - 0 1
>>b3 (-49)
>>again I do not understand the (-49)
>>
>***********************
>This is 49 moves to conversion for black.  I played this out using the "move
>now" button and it looks reasonable.

I thought that b3 is the conversion so the distance to conversion(Moving a pawn
or capture is 1.

Uri



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