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Subject: Re: Here are my plans for the future of this tournament.

Author: Kurt Utzinger

Date: 05:06:51 05/04/05

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On May 04, 2005 at 06:45:16, Jason Kent wrote:

>On May 04, 2005 at 04:40:57, Kurt Utzinger wrote:
>
>>On May 04, 2005 at 03:05:54, Graham Banks wrote:
>>
>>>On May 04, 2005 at 02:53:56, Kurt Utzinger wrote:
>>>
>>>>On May 04, 2005 at 02:18:29, Graham Banks wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On May 03, 2005 at 19:04:48, Jason Kent wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Cycle 5 final! Halfway done! Shredder did very well this cycle.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Shredder 9 UCI - CMX Yoda 2.7--      2.5   -   2.5
>>>>>>Shredder 9 UCI - CMX Wrath-----      4.0   -   1.0
>>>>>>Shredder 9 UCI - CMX Tsunami---      1.5   -   3.5
>>>>>>Shredder 9 UCI - CMX Steadfast-      2.5   -   2.5
>>>>>>Shredder 9 UCI - CMX Solomon---      3.5   -   1.5
>>>>>>Shredder 9 UCI - CMX SoFar-----      2.5   -   2.5
>>>>>>Shredder 9 UCI - CMX Schumacher      3.0   -   2.0
>>>>>>Shredder 9 UCI - CMX R2D2------      4.5   -   0.5
>>>>>>Shredder 9 UCI - CMX R1X-------      2.0   -   3.0
>>>>>>Shredder 9 UCI - CMX Predator--      5.0   -   0.0
>>>>>>Shredder 9 UCI - CMX Milan 2.4-      2.5   -   2.5
>>>>>>Shredder 9 UCI - CMX Milan 2.3-      1.5   -   3.5
>>>>>>Shredder 9 UCI - CMX Milan 2.1-      3.0   -   2.0
>>>>>>Shredder 9 UCI - CMX Milan 1.5-      4.0   -   1.0
>>>>>>Shredder 9 UCI - CMX Medusa----      3.0   -   2.0
>>>>>>Shredder 9 UCI - CMX Default---      3.0   -   2.0
>>>>>>Shredder 9 UCI - CMX DarthVader      3.5   -   1.5
>>>>>>Shredder 9 UCI - CMX D2Alos----      3.0   -   2.0
>>>>>>Shredder 9 UCI - CMX D1Pyr-----      3.0   -   2.0
>>>>>>Shredder 9 UCI - CMX D1Meandros      3.5   -   1.5
>>>>>>Shredder 9 UCI - CMX Creep-----      4.0   -   1.0
>>>>>>Shredder 9 UCI - CMX Cobra-----      3.5   -   1.5
>>>>>>Shredder 9 UCI - CMX C3PO------      4.0   -   1.0
>>>>>>Shredder 9 UCI - CMX Berean5.53      3.0   -   2.0
>>>>>>Shredder 9 UCI - CMX Beast-----      2.0   -   3.0
>>>>>>Shredder 9 UCI - CM9_Slayer2B--      4.0   -   1.0
>>>>>>Shredder 9 UCI - CM9_Minotaur--      2.5   -   2.5
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>http://www.cacsi.com/chess/S9Gauntlet-CMX!.zip
>>>>>>(updated May 3, 7:00 pm EST)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Hi Jason,
>>>>>
>>>>>some very interesting results at this early stage! Milan 2.3 seems to be a good
>>>>>allround setting. Let's see if it can maintain its performance,
>>>>>
>>>>>Regards, Graham.
>>>>
>>>>      Hi Graham
>>>>      It's perhaps too early to conclude something in view
>>>>      of the very small number of games played so far in
>>>>      each of these matches. I think we all agree that none
>>>>      of these settings will have a chance to win a match
>>>>      vs Shredder 9 over 50-100 games :-) Nevertheless a
>>>>      most interesting test by Jason (it would be useful
>>>>      to increase the number of games to 40 for each match
>>>>      and I hope Jason will have enough time to do that).
>>>>      Kurt
>>>
>>>
>>>I agree 100%, but I doubt that Jason would be prepared to give up that much
>>>computer time as it becomes a real chore to run so many games at such a time
>>>control,
>>>
>>>Graham.
>>
>>      Hi Graham
>>      Agreed ... the question is if Jason has something even
>>      more interesting to do :-)
>>      Kurt
>
>I believe that CM may indeed be able to beat Shredder 9 even in a match of
>50-100 games.  It would be rare I think, but possible with fine-tuned settings.
>
>I have 27 engines now playing 10 games against Shredder 9. (270 games)  After
>these games, I'll knock out one of the CM9 settings and 13 CMX settings.
>
>That will leave me with 13 settings, and I'll play 15 games more for each
>setting remaining. (195 games)  Then, I'll knock out the bottom 7 settings.
>
>That will leave me with 6 settings, and they will each play 25 more games. (150
>games)  At this point I will already have 50 games each for the 6 top performing
>CM settings.
>
>I will use my judgement to decide whether I should knock out any more or keep
>going with these final 6 settings until the best settings have 100 games each.
>These numbers I threw up aren't locked in stone.  If a couple engines are tied
>in score, (some making it, and others just barely into bottom half of the
>knockout) I may decide to keep all the tied engines.
>
>Jason

      Hi Jason
      A very good and time consuming project you have
      chosen. I wish you have fun with all the games
      and am sure that a lot of people will eagerly
      waiting to your further news.
      Kurt



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