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Subject: Re: WCSAC.0018

Author: Eelco de Groot

Date: 08:53:25 05/06/05

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On May 06, 2005 at 09:43:35, Steven Edwards wrote:

>Here's WCSAC.0018:
>
>[D] rn3rk1/ppp3pp/4bq2/2b1Np2/2B2P2/8/PPP1Q1PP/R1B1K2R w KQ - 0 1
>
>Book says: Nd7
>
>Toolkit says: Nf3 Bf7 Ng5 Nc6 Nxf7 Rxf7 Kf1 Nd4 Bxf7+ Qxf7 Qd3 Re8 b4 Bb6
>(+1.119)
>
>Which (if either) is right?


Pro Deo 1.1 default thinks Nd7 is not really winning and prefers Nf3 after 2½
minutes. The score goes down slightly at ply 14.
(Celeron 500 MHz)

00:00:00.6	0,03	1	77	Bxe6+ Qxe6
00:00:00.7	0,36	1	80	Be3
00:00:00.7	0,45	2	1907	Be3 Bb4+ c3
00:00:00.7	0,40	3	3255	Be3 Bxe3 Bxe6+ Qxe6
00:00:00.7	0,40	4	5761	Be3 Bxe3 Bxe6+ Qxe6 Qxe3
00:00:00.8	0,40	4	11789	Nd7
00:00:00.8	1,22	4	12608	Nd7 Bb4+ Kf1 Nxd7 Bxe6+
00:00:00.9	1,28	5	20131	Nd7 Nxd7 Bxe6+ Rf7 Bxf7+ Qxf7
00:00:01.1	1,60	6	47520	Nd7 Nxd7 Bxe6+ Rf7 Bxd7 Rxd7 Qc4+ Kh8 Qxc5 Re8+
00:00:01.8	1,16	7	119515	Nd7 Nxd7 Bxe6+ Rf7 Bd5 Rd8 a4
00:00:03.8	1,23	8	375466	Nd7 Nxd7 Bxe6+ Rf7 Bd5 a5 c3
00:00:08.0	1,23	9	1010430	Nd7 Nxd7 Qxe6+ Kh8 Qxd7 Rfe8+ Be2 Qa6 c4 Qxc4
00:00:19.5	-0,05	10	2922604	Nd7 Nxd7 Bxe6+ Kh8 Bxd7 Rf7 Qd3 Qe7+ Be3 Qxe3+ Qxe3
Bxe3 Be6
00:00:33.9	-0,03	10	5024080	g3 Re8 Bd2
00:00:56.8	0,09	10	8559573	Bxe6+ Qxe6 Be3 Bxe3 Qxe3 Nc6 O-O
00:02:15.2	0,46	10	19271517	Bd2 Kh8 O-O-O Nc6 Bc3
00:02:39.5	1,03	10	23081854	Nf3 Bf7 Ng5 Nc6 Nxf7
00:03:03.1	1,05	11	26930521	Nf3 Re8 Ng5 Bxc4
00:03:24.1	1,05	12	30478773	Nf3 Re8 Ng5 Bxc4
00:04:00.5	1,05	13	36506664	Nf3 Re8 Ng5 Bxc4
00:07:29.2	0,86	14	72339056	Nf3 Bf7 Ng5 Nd7 Nxf7 Rxf7 Kf1


Pro Deo 1.1 Betazoid T90 is a bit faster choosing Nf3 when the score for Nd7
drops.


00:00:08.9	-0,01	1	77	Bxe6+ Qxe6
00:00:08.9	0,37	1	80	Be3
00:00:09.0	0,48	2	2002	Be3 Bb4+ c3
00:00:09.8	0,41	3	3409	Be3 Bxe3 Bxe6+ Qxe6
00:00:10.6	0,41	4	5835	Be3 Bxe3 Bxe6+ Qxe6 Qxe3
00:00:11.8	0,41	4	13124	Nd7
00:00:11.9	1,18	4	14023	Nd7 Bb4+ Kf1 Nxd7 Bxe6+
00:00:12.4	1,29	5	24313	Nd7 Nxd7 Bxe6+ Rf7 Bd5
00:00:13.1	1,50	6	58145	Nd7 Nxd7 Bxe6+ Rf7 Bxf7+ Qxf7 Be3
00:00:14.0	1,14	7	156249	Nd7 Nxd7 Bxe6+ Rf7 Bd5 Nb6 Bxf7+ Qxf7
00:00:17.3	1,13	8	638784	Nd7 Nxd7 Qxe6+ Qxe6+ Bxe6+ Rf7 Bxf7+ Kxf7 Ke2 Re8+ Kf3
Nf6 Rd1 b5
00:00:24.3	0,93	9	1722355	Nd7 Nxd7 Bxe6+ Rf7 Bb3 Nb6 c3 Rd8 Be3 Bxe3
00:00:36.0	1,09	9	3498193	Nf3 Bf7 Ng5 Nd7 Nxf7 Rxf7 c3
00:00:42.6	1,16	10	4564163	Nf3 Re8 Ng5 Bxc4 Qxe8+
00:01:06.6	1,03	11	8434146	Nf3 Re8 Ng5 Bxc4 Qxe8+
00:02:14.2	1,03	12	19144252	Nf3 Re8 Ng5 Bxc4 Qxe8+
00:04:22.1	1,01	13	39363508	Nf3 Re8 Ng5 Bxc4 Qxe8+


Gandalf 6 prefers Bd2


00:00:01.1	1,24	4	17500	Nd7 Bb4+ c3 Bxc3+ Kf1 Nxd7 Bxe6+ Kh8 Bxd7
00:00:01.4	1,76	5	34797	Nd7 Bb4+ Kf1 Nxd7 Bxe6+ Rf7 Bxd7 Rxd7 Qc4+ Kh8 Qxb4
00:00:02.0	1,12	6	65856	Nd7 Bb4+ Kf1 Nxd7 Bxe6+ Rf7 Bxd7 Rxd7 Qc4+ Kh8 Qxb4
00:00:02.3	0,57	6	85431	Nd7 Nxd7 Qxe6+ Kh8 Qxd7 Rfe8+ Kf1 Qh4
00:00:02.9	0,57	6	106723	Bd2 Qh4
00:00:03.6	0,57	6	139635	Nd7 Nxd7 Qxe6+ Kh8 Qxd7 Rfe8+ Kf1 Qh4
00:00:05.1	0,06	7	224798	Nd7 Nxd7 Qxe6+ Kh8 Qxd7 Rfe8+ Be2 Qh4+ g3 Qg4
00:00:05.3	0,06	7	236613	Bd2 Re8
00:00:05.8	0,41	7	268770	Bd2 Kh8 O-O-O Nc6 Ng6+ Qxg6 Qxe6 Qxg2 Bc3
00:00:08.5	0,44	8	399633	Bd2 Kh8 O-O-O Nc6 Nxc6 Bxc4 Qxc4 Qxc6 Kb1
00:00:14.2	0,64	9	705633	Bd2 Kh8 O-O-O Nc6 Bc3 Nxe5 Bxe5 Bxc4 Qxc4 Be3+ Kb1 Qg6
00:00:30.2	0,83	10	1538882	Bd2 Kh8 O-O-O Nc6 Bc3 Qh6 Ng6+ Qxg6 Bxe6 Bb4 Bxb4
Nxb4
00:01:06.1	0,60	11	3646494	Bd2 Kh8 O-O-O Nc6 Bc3 Nxe5 Bxe5 Bxc4 Qxc4 Qc6 Kb1 b5
Qd5 Qxd5 Rxd5
00:02:21.7	0,76	12	8219736	Bd2 Kh8 O-O-O Nc6 Bc3 Nxe5 Bxe5 Bxc4 Qxc4 Qe7 Rhe1
Rfd8 Rxd8+ Rxd8 Bxg7+ Qxg7 Qxc5 Qxg2 Qxc7
00:04:44.1	0,76	13	16672815	Bd2 Kh8 O-O-O Nc6 Bc3 Nxe5 Bxe5 Bxc4 Qxc4 Qe7 Rhe1
Rfd8 Rxd8+ Rxd8 Bxg7+ Qxg7 Qxc5 Qxg2 Qxc7
00:12:36.2	0,67	14	44441895	Bd2 Kh8 O-O-O Bd4 Bb4 Rd8 Kb1 Nc6 Nxc6 Bxc4 Qxc4
bxc6 Be7 Qxe7 Rxd4 Rxd4 Qxd4




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