Author: Heinz van Kempen
Date: 21:46:02 05/07/05
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On May 07, 2005 at 13:39:52, Kurt Utzinger wrote: >After the end of cycle 18, round 127 and 504 games, it is >still Shredder9 to have the lead. Ruffian 2.1.0 remained >at the bottom of the table and the winners of this serie >are Hiarcs 9 and Junior 9 with 5.0/7 > >RK 2005 Tournament (90m+30s) >8 engines, 210 rounds, 840 games, Athlon 1.3/64 MB hash >All games played under ChessBase Fritz8-GUI >Time control: 90m+30s, ponder=off, 3-/4-men EGTB >Books: own tournament books, optimize, no book learning >Chess Tiger 15 CB (tiger15.ctg) by Christoph Theron >Fritz 8.0.0.26 (fritz8.ctg) by Frans Morsch >Hiarcs 9 (hiarcs9.ctg) by Mark Uniacke >Gandalf 6.0 (dbchs.dat) by Steen Surballe >Junior 9.0.0.3 (junior9.ctg) by Amir Ban >Ruffian 2.1.0 UCI (book 3) by Perola Valfridsson >Shredder 9 CB (shredder9.ctg) by Stefan Meyer-Kahlen >The King 3.33 (Yoda 2.5 with cm.book) by Johan de Koning >Tester: Kurt Utzinger / Rolf Bühler, Switzerland > >Details / Ranking list / Games download >http://www.utzingerk.com/rk_2005.htm > > > > Program Score % Av.Op. Elo + - > > 1 Shredder 9 : 78.5/126 62.3 2489 2576 52 54 > 2 Junior 9 : 68.5/126 54.4 2496 2526 59 48 > 3 Fritz 8 : 64.5/126 51.2 2499 2507 62 38 > 4 Chess Tiger 15.0 : 62.0/126 49.2 2501 2495 44 62 > 5 Hiarcs 9 : 61.5/126 48.8 2501 2493 44 62 > 6 Gandalf 6.0 : 59.5/126 47.2 2502 2483 43 60 > 7 The King 3.33 : 58.0/126 46.0 2503 2476 43 59 > 8 Ruffian 2.1.0 : 51.5/126 40.9 2508 2444 48 54 Hi Kurt, comparing different ELO lists available I observed the following, when I compare Fritz and Junior and this seems to be valid for different Fritz versions: Blitz: Fritz mostly ahead of Junior Active (Rapid) Chess: more or less at the same level Tournament time control: Junior mainly better than Fritz (hard to find a lot of tournaments here, so I refer to SSDF and your tournaments especially) So my conclusion would be that Junior gains strength above average the more time is given to the engine and engines like for example Fritz do not. Hiarcs for example also is a very good blitz engine, but seems to have worse results (disproportionate) with more time (SSDF). Hard to say what could be the reasons for this phenomenon. Opposite to you I am interested in all time controls, thinking on the other hand that tournament chess is the "king´s category". So let us hope that there will always be tournaments with long time control, no matter how fast computers will be in the future. Best Regards Heinz
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