Author: Uri Blass
Date: 04:09:41 05/09/05
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On May 09, 2005 at 06:18:00, Vasik Rajlich wrote: >On May 09, 2005 at 03:51:29, Uri Blass wrote: > >>On May 09, 2005 at 01:16:11, Timothy J. Frohlick wrote: >> >>>Jorge, >>> >>>It only proves that a guy with a 200 IQ can play chess like a moron. Oppenheimer >>>was a better physicist than Einstein but a complete nincompoop on the >>>chessboard. >> >> >>It proves nothing of what you claims. >> >>Note only that the claim that >>"a guy with a 200 IQ can play chess like a moron" is obvious. >> >>Even Anand can play chess like a moron so certainly a guy with a 200 IQ that >>only learned the rules before the game can play like a moron >> >>I do not know when Oppenheimer learned the rules of chess and what is his >>experience when he lost the game so I have no opinion on his talent for chess >>based on that game. >> >> >>[Event "Biel-B"] >>[Site "Biel"] >>[Date "1988.07.??"] >>[Round "9"] >>[White "Zapata,Alonso"] >>[Black "Anand,Viswanathan"] >>[Result "1-0"] >>[Eco "C42"] >>1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.Nxe5 d6 4.Nf3 Nxe4 5.Nc3 Bf5 6.Qe2 1-0 >> >> >> >> >>> >>>TJ >>> >>>PS I have seen this in many highly intelligent people. They can be blindingly >>>brilliant but no good at chess. >> >>Of course >> >>I think that if you want to be fair you need to tell us what is their experience >>in chess. >> >>Chess is a game when people with no experience have no chance. >> >>I believe that every brilliant person can become a master if he decides that it >>is important for him. >> >>It probably was never important for them to be good in chess. >> >>I have no special talent for chess(I even cannot play blindfold) but I got the >>title of candidate master few days ago(Israeli rating above 2070 when Isreli >>rating is equivalent to fide rating). >> > >I'm not sure I follow the logic here but anyway there are many different types >of talent. I've seen plenty of people who were brilliant at math who couldn't >throw a football or make a lay-up to save their lives. And vice-versa. And it >wasn't a matter of enough training. Chess is just another thing you can either >get, or not get. > >Vas Of course there are different types of talent and I do not claim that everybody can get rating of 2600 with enough training. My point is that I believe that most people can achieve master level(fide rating of 2300) by training if they decide that it is really important for them and decide to learn to think correctly and to learn opening theory and endgames. learning to think correctly is very important because typical mistake is not considering the next move of the opponent or not considering the next move of yourself and I believe that it is possible to learn to avoid this type of mistake by training even without being able to play blindfold. Uri Uri
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