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Subject: Re: Albert Einstein vs Robert Oppenheimer !

Author: Rolf Tueschen

Date: 06:21:17 05/09/05

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On May 09, 2005 at 09:12:53, Roger D Davis wrote:

>On May 09, 2005 at 08:42:56, Rolf Tueschen wrote:
>
>>On May 09, 2005 at 07:45:14, Roger D Davis wrote:
>>
>>>IN
>>>fact, a guy with a 500 IQ (were such a thing possible) could probably play chess
>>>like a guy with a 100 IQ...on his first game. I say this because intelligence,
>>>broadly conceived, is the capacity to acquire knowledge in any particular
>>>domain. Intelligence is concerned with rates. Accordingly, you could be the most
>>>intelligent person in the world, but with no experience, you'll lose. But you'll
>>>probably learn the game faster than anybody.
>>>
>>>Roger
>>
>>
>>That is wrong. If it were true then academics and doctors with high intelligence
>>would improve in chess over experience after some years. But this is easily
>>refutated. I know a lot of chessclubs and the genuine chess talent will always
>>play above the level of intelligent people without a special chess talent. So
>>you can find many doctors and professors playing in low teams while the chess
>>talents play in superior classes.
>>
>>I could still accept your general thesis. But we can't research it because most
>>intelligent people and academics don't play chess for years (anymore after their
>>youth). Perhaps the theory should go like this:
>>
>>- people with high intelligence and already great talent stop playing in their
>>younger age because they understand what all seperates them from highest chess
>>genius; they do also avoid to get lost in the more or less starving scene of
>>chess where they risk to become cases for social welfare. Other than in the
>>former SU states where chess was a highly supporte profession, you must get
>>attractive jobs to be able to make a living for your own family. Therefore a lot
>>of high talents simply stopped playing. They all would be better than the
>>average club players and they could prove your thesis.
>>
>>- people with high intelligence and chess talent but without great perspectives
>>in either chess or science will sty in the chess scene but they have no chance
>>to (ever) get really successful in chess [that is the sample I was refering to
>>above]
>
>Sorry Rolf, I couldn't understand your counterproposal. I know English is your
>2nd language. Perhaps you could rephrase it?
>
>Roger


If English were your first language then you could understand me without
problem. Sorry, that I can't rephrase it because this is already my best version
of the English.



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