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Subject: Re: Albert Einstein vs Robert Oppenheimer !

Author: Roger D Davis

Date: 07:44:41 05/09/05

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On May 09, 2005 at 09:21:17, Rolf Tueschen wrote:

>On May 09, 2005 at 09:12:53, Roger D Davis wrote:
>
>>On May 09, 2005 at 08:42:56, Rolf Tueschen wrote:
>>
>>>On May 09, 2005 at 07:45:14, Roger D Davis wrote:
>>>
>>>>IN
>>>>fact, a guy with a 500 IQ (were such a thing possible) could probably play chess
>>>>like a guy with a 100 IQ...on his first game. I say this because intelligence,
>>>>broadly conceived, is the capacity to acquire knowledge in any particular
>>>>domain. Intelligence is concerned with rates. Accordingly, you could be the most
>>>>intelligent person in the world, but with no experience, you'll lose. But you'll
>>>>probably learn the game faster than anybody.
>>>>
>>>>Roger
>>>
>>>
>>>That is wrong. If it were true then academics and doctors with high intelligence
>>>would improve in chess over experience after some years. But this is easily
>>>refutated. I know a lot of chessclubs and the genuine chess talent will always
>>>play above the level of intelligent people without a special chess talent. So
>>>you can find many doctors and professors playing in low teams while the chess
>>>talents play in superior classes.
>>>
>>>I could still accept your general thesis. But we can't research it because most
>>>intelligent people and academics don't play chess for years (anymore after their
>>>youth). Perhaps the theory should go like this:
>>>
>>>- people with high intelligence and already great talent stop playing in their
>>>younger age because they understand what all seperates them from highest chess
>>>genius; they do also avoid to get lost in the more or less starving scene of
>>>chess where they risk to become cases for social welfare. Other than in the
>>>former SU states where chess was a highly supporte profession, you must get
>>>attractive jobs to be able to make a living for your own family. Therefore a lot
>>>of high talents simply stopped playing. They all would be better than the
>>>average club players and they could prove your thesis.
>>>
>>>- people with high intelligence and chess talent but without great perspectives
>>>in either chess or science will sty in the chess scene but they have no chance
>>>to (ever) get really successful in chess [that is the sample I was refering to
>>>above]
>>
>>Sorry Rolf, I couldn't understand your counterproposal. I know English is your
>>2nd language. Perhaps you could rephrase it?
>>
>>Roger
>
>
>If English were your first language then you could understand me without
>problem. Sorry, that I can't rephrase it because this is already my best version
>of the English.


No harm done. No need to apologize.

Roger



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