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Subject: Re: Albert Einstein vs Robert Oppenheimer !

Author: Rolf Tueschen

Date: 10:04:24 05/09/05

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On May 09, 2005 at 10:44:41, Roger D Davis wrote:

>On May 09, 2005 at 09:21:17, Rolf Tueschen wrote:
>
>>On May 09, 2005 at 09:12:53, Roger D Davis wrote:
>>
>>>On May 09, 2005 at 08:42:56, Rolf Tueschen wrote:
>>>
>>>>On May 09, 2005 at 07:45:14, Roger D Davis wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>IN
>>>>>fact, a guy with a 500 IQ (were such a thing possible) could probably play chess
>>>>>like a guy with a 100 IQ...on his first game. I say this because intelligence,
>>>>>broadly conceived, is the capacity to acquire knowledge in any particular
>>>>>domain. Intelligence is concerned with rates. Accordingly, you could be the most
>>>>>intelligent person in the world, but with no experience, you'll lose. But you'll
>>>>>probably learn the game faster than anybody.
>>>>>
>>>>>Roger
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>That is wrong. If it were true then academics and doctors with high intelligence
>>>>would improve in chess over experience after some years. But this is easily
>>>>refutated. I know a lot of chessclubs and the genuine chess talent will always
>>>>play above the level of intelligent people without a special chess talent. So
>>>>you can find many doctors and professors playing in low teams while the chess
>>>>talents play in superior classes.
>>>>
>>>>I could still accept your general thesis. But we can't research it because most
>>>>intelligent people and academics don't play chess for years (anymore after their
>>>>youth). Perhaps the theory should go like this:
>>>>
>>>>- people with high intelligence and already great talent stop playing in their
>>>>younger age because they understand what all seperates them from highest chess
>>>>genius; they do also avoid to get lost in the more or less starving scene of
>>>>chess where they risk to become cases for social welfare. Other than in the
>>>>former SU states where chess was a highly supporte profession, you must get
>>>>attractive jobs to be able to make a living for your own family. Therefore a lot
>>>>of high talents simply stopped playing. They all would be better than the
>>>>average club players and they could prove your thesis.
>>>>
>>>>- people with high intelligence and chess talent but without great perspectives
>>>>in either chess or science will sty in the chess scene but they have no chance
>>>>to (ever) get really successful in chess [that is the sample I was refering to
>>>>above]
>>>
>>>Sorry Rolf, I couldn't understand your counterproposal. I know English is your
>>>2nd language. Perhaps you could rephrase it?
>>>
>>>Roger
>>
>>
>>If English were your first language then you could understand me without
>>problem. Sorry, that I can't rephrase it because this is already my best version
>>of the English.
>
>
>No harm done. No need to apologize.
>
>Roger

It's just science which must suffer again. Same with Hsu, same with you. ;)



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