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Subject: Re: Chessmetrics site has been updated with new data

Author: Dann Corbit

Date: 00:15:04 05/11/05

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On May 11, 2005 at 02:24:11, Pallav Nawani wrote:

>On May 11, 2005 at 01:03:29, Darrel Briley wrote:
>
>>On May 11, 2005 at 00:48:38, Pallav Nawani wrote:
>>
>>>On May 10, 2005 at 19:17:47, Marc D wrote:
>>>
>>>>On May 10, 2005 at 18:53:18, Dann Corbit wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>http://www.chessmetrics.com/
>>>>
>>>>Hi Dann
>>>>
>>>>Thanks for the link.
>>>>How come Bobby Fisher has a higher rating than Kasparov?
>>>>Does this mean he is still the best player in the world?
>>>>
>>>>Cool
>>>>
>>>>Marc
>>>
>>>This is a hypothetical rating. As such, it is more of an _opinion_ than the
>>>truth. All of such ratings I have seen always have Fischer at top ;) I guess the
>>>people who make these ratings like Fischer more than they like Kasparov. It
>>>would not be hard to make some changes in the formula and get Kaspy at top.
>>>
>>>Pallav
>>
>>The previous version of the site before the recent update of Mr. Sonas'
>>statistical methods showed Capablanca firmly on top in the 1yr, 3yr 5yr and it
>>seems like (unless I'm mistaken) the 9yr rating catagories
>
>Kasparov, Fischer, Capablanca are all masters of different era. There are too
>many variables in their opponents, play styles, the times in which they played,
>the chess theories at that time, the time controls, their opening knowledge etc.
>Because of this, these ratings _cannot_be_taken_seriously_.
>
>There is no point in comparing/creating the ELO ratings of players who were of a
>totally different era, other than for fun. Probably this is what I should have
>stated in the first place.

On the other hand, there is a good deal of overlap from one segment to the next.

On the other, other hand, there is probably +/- 100 Elo or larger error bars,
since we only have a few hundred games from each player.

And no matter how completely nonsensical the debate, it is one that will rage on
forever.  And since the principals cannot defend themselves, we get to count
angels dancing on the heads of pins until the cows come home.




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