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Subject: Thanks For the Analysis....I Still Feel Qe2! is Strong

Author: Terry McCracken

Date: 18:13:01 05/12/05

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On May 12, 2005 at 11:09:37, Eelco de Groot wrote:

>On May 12, 2005 at 02:37:23, Terry McCracken wrote:
>
>>Nxf7 is tempting but I believe Qe2 is stronger, with a killer threat of Nxf7!
>>next move.
>>
>>This position is taken from a blitz game I played tonight.
>>
>>[D]r2qkbnr/1b3ppp/p3p3/2ppN3/3P1B2/2N5/PPP2PPP/R2QR1K1 w kq - 0 12
>>
>>Terry
>
>Thanks for the testposition Terry! I'm testing the new mainframe -well that's
>what I call it, it's an Athlon64 3200+ - and Pro Deo gets over 1.1 million nodes
>per second! Because of the slightly different architecture, all Pro Deo
>personalities behave differently too, compared to my Celeron(Pentium III) 500
>MHz. That has 256 kb L1 cache. The Athlon has a 512 kb cache I believe. I think
>that influences Lazy eval, the amount of the eval function that can be held in
>cache is different. Pro Deo 1.1 default settings does it better so far on this
>machine, which is not surprising as I believe Ed has an Athlon 3400+ as his
>development machine.
>
>Pro Deo 1.1 Betazoid T901 on a mainframe (Athlon 64 3200) would play 1.Qe2 in a
>blitzgame but also likes Shredder's Na4 after a while:
>
>00:00:00.2	1,10	3	4386	Qe2 Qf6 Qe3 cxd4
>00:00:00.2	0,99	4	12335	Qe2 Qc8 Qh5 g6
>00:00:00.2	0,99	4	15288	dxc5
>00:00:00.2	1,27	4	18017	dxc5 Bxc5 Qg4 Qf6 Rad1
>00:00:00.2	0,84	5	39386	dxc5 Bxc5 Qg4 g6 Rad1 Rc8
>00:00:00.2	0,93	5	66855	a3 cxd4 Qxd4 Nf6 Qa4+ Nd7
>00:00:00.4	0,94	6	187849	a3 Rc8 dxc5 Bxc5 Qg4 Qf6 Rad1
>00:00:00.4	0,94	6	223993	Qe2
>00:00:00.5	1,20	6	249475	Qe2 Be7 dxc5 Bxc5 Nxf7 Kxf7 Qxe6+ Kf8 Be5
>00:00:00.6	0,89	7	345267	Qe2 Be7 dxc5 Bxc5 Rad1 Qh4 Na4 Bb4
>00:00:01.5	1,07	8	1162336	Qe2 Qf6 Qd2 Qh4 Rad1 cxd4 Qxd4 Bd6
>00:00:03.1	1,21	9	2835182	Qe2 Be7 dxc5 Bxc5 Na4 Bb4 c3 Be7 Rad1
>00:00:07.8	1,03	10	8010182	Qe2 g6 Na4
>00:00:27.8	1,09	11	31131848	Qe2 g6 Na4
>00:01:10.1	1,04	12	81566496	Qe2 Nf6 Nxf7 Kxf7 Qxe6+ Kg6 Re3
>00:01:48.2	1,04	12	126443446	Na4
>00:02:08.4	1,25	12	147685285	Na4 c4 Qe2 Be7
>00:02:57.0	1,25	13	204202070	Na4 c4 Qe2 Be7
>00:07:23.4	1,45	14	524384616	Na4 c4 b3
>
>Pro Deo 1.1 default prefers 1.Qe2, but I didn't let it analyze very long.
>
> 00:00:00   3.12  0.97  1.Qe2 Qf6 2.Qe3 cxd4 3.Qxd4 Qf5 4.Nxd5
> 00:00:00   4.00  0.86  1.Qe2 Qc8 2.Qh5 g6 3.Nxg6
> 00:00:00   4.12  0.93  1.dxc5 Bxc5 2.Qg4 Kf8 3.Rad1
> 00:00:00   5.00  0.76  1.dxc5 Bxc5 2.Qg4 g6 3.Rad1 Rc8
> 00:00:00   5.03  0.81  1.a3 Nf6 2.f3 cxd4
> 00:00:00   6.00  0.66  1.a3 Nf6 2.dxc5 Bxc5 3.Na4 Bd6 4.f3
> 00:00:00   6.01  0.71  1.dxc5 Bxc5 2.Qg4 Qf6 3.Rad1 Nh6 4.Qg3
> 00:00:00   6.02  0.71  1.Qe2
> 00:00:00   6.02  0.94  1.Qe2 Be7 2.dxc5 Bxc5 3.Na4 Bd4 4.Rad1 Bxe5
> 00:00:00   7.00  0.80  1.Qe2 Be7 2.dxc5 Bxc5 3.Na4 Bb4 4.c3 Qh4
> 00:00:00   7.01  0.80  1.dxc5
> 00:00:00   7.01  1.23  1.dxc5 Bxc5 2.Qg4 g6 3.Nxf7 Kxf7 4.Qxe6 Kg7
>                        5.Rad1
> 00:00:01   8.00  0.76  1.dxc5 Bxc5 2.Qg4 Kf8 3.Na4 Nf6 4.Qg3 Bb4 5.c3
> 00:00:01   8.01  1.02  1.Qe2 Bc8 2.dxc5 Bxc5 3.Qg4 g6 4.Na4 Nf6 5.Qh4
> 00:00:02   9.00  1.05  1.Qe2 Be7 2.dxc5 Bxc5 3.Na4 Bb4 4.c3 Qf6 5.Qe3
>                        Be7
> 00:00:07  10.00  0.89  1.Qe2 g6 2.Na4
> 00:00:09  10.02  1.10  1.Na4 cxd4 2.Qxd4 f6 3.Nb6 fxe5 4.Bxe5 Ra7
>                        5.Bxg7 Bxg7 6.Qxg7 Qxb6 7.Qxh8
> 00:00:14  11.00  1.00  1.Na4 cxd4 2.Qxd4 Bd6 3.Nb6 Ra7 4.Qa4 Ke7 5.Nc6
>                        Bxc6 6.Qxc6 g5 7.Bxg5 Nf6
> 00:00:16  11.01  1.02  1.Qe2 g6 2.Na4
> 00:00:46  12.00  1.17  1.Qe2 Be7 2.Nb5 Qc8 3.Nc7 Qxc7 4.Ng6 Qb6 5.Nxh8
>                        Nf6 6.dxc5 Qxb2
> 00:01:28  13.00  0.98  1.Qe2 Nf6 2.Na4
> 00:01:54  13.01  1.16  1.Na4 c4 2.Qe2 Be7 3.b3 cxb3 4.Rab1 Qa5 5.Rxb3
>                        Qxa4
> 00:03:24  14.00  1.19  1.Na4 c4 2.Qe2 Be7 3.Nc5 Qc8 4.Ncd7 Qd8 5.Qh5
>                        g6 6.Qh3 Rc8
> 00:08:28  15.00  1.19  1.Na4 c4 2.Qh5
> 00:09:49  15.01  1.19  1.Qe2
> 00:10:30  15.01  1.20  1.Qe2 Nf6 2.Na4
>
>Pro Deo Betazoid T8:
>
>Betazoid T8 met 200 Mb HT
>
>00:00:00.2	1,10	4	13619	dxc5
>00:00:00.2	1,27	4	14487	dxc5 Bxc5 Qg4 Qf6 Rad1
>00:00:00.2	0,86	5	26476	dxc5 Bxc5 Na4 Bb4 c3 Bd6 Qg4 Bxe5
>00:00:00.2	0,96	5	49764	a3 Nf6 Na4 Ne4
>00:00:00.3	0,95	6	98850	a3 Nf6 Qe2 Be7 dxc5 Bxc5 Nb5
>00:00:00.4	0,95	6	136292	Qe2
>00:00:00.4	1,10	6	147151	Qe2 Qf6 Qd2 Bd6 dxc5 Bxc5 Rad1 Bb4 Qd4
>00:00:00.6	0,94	7	331719	Qe2 Be7 dxc5 Bxc5 Qg4 Qf6 Rad1 Rc8
>00:00:01.7	1,08	8	1360316	Qe2 g6 Rad1 cxd4 Nxf7 Kxf7 Qxe6+ Kg7
>00:00:04.1	1,17	9	3758111	Qe2 Ne7 dxc5 Ng6 Qh5 Nxe5 Bxe5 Bxc5 Bxg7 Qb6 Bxh8
>Bxf2+ Kh1
>00:00:09.2	1,23	10	9566559	Qe2 Be7 dxc5 Bxc5 Na4 Bb4 c3 Be7 Qg4 Bf6
>00:00:24.3	0,97	11	27280865	Qe2 Nf6 Nxf7 Kxf7 Qxe6+ Kg6
>00:01:04.2	1,27	11	71561564	Na4 cxd4 Qxd4 Qa5 Bd2 Qb5
>00:01:22.6	1,15	12	92165008	Na4 cxd4 Qxd4 f6 Nd3
>00:04:05.4	1,36	13	279798298	Na4 c4 b3 Nf6 bxc4 dxc4 Rb1 Qd5 f3 Rd8 Qd2
>00:05:40.8	1,40	13	403437615	Qe2 Nf6 Na4 Ne4
>00:16:11.7	0,91	14	1200236572	Qe2 Nf6 Nxf7 Kxf7 Qxe6+ Kg6
>00:18:33.4	0,91	14	1351370531	Na4
>00:22:51.2	1,58	14	1638677720	Na4 c4 b3 cxb3 Rb1 Rc8 Rxb3
>
>After  1.Qe2 Nf6 2.Nxf7 Kxf7
>
>[D]r2q1b1r/1b3kpp/p3pn2/2pp4/3P1B2/2N5/PPP1QPPP/R3R1K1 w - -
>
> 00:00:00   1.00  -0.64  3.dxc5
> 00:00:00   1.03  2.96  3.Qxe6 Kg6
> 00:00:00   2.00  3.52  3.Qxe6 Kg6 4.Re5 h6
> 00:00:00   3.00  3.52  3.Qxe6 Kg6 4.Re5 h6 5.Kh7 dxc5 6.Bxc5 Qf7 7.Bd4
>                        a4
> 00:00:00   4.00  3.29  3.Qxe6 Kg6 4.Re5 h6 5.dxc5 Bxc5 6.Kh7 Qf7 7.Bd4
>                        a4
> 00:00:00   5.00  2.03  3.Qxe6 Kg6 4.dxc5 Bc8 5.Qe5 Kf7 6.b4
> 00:00:00   6.00  1.59  3.Qxe6 Kg6 4.Re5 h6 5.dxc5 Kh7 6.Qf7 Qd7 7.Qxf7
> 00:00:00   7.00  1.43  3.Qxe6 Kg6 4.Re5 h6 5.dxc5 Kh7 6.c6 Bc8 7.Qf7
>                        Qb6
> 00:00:02   8.00  1.37  3.Qxe6 Kg6 4.Re3 h5
> 00:00:06   9.00  1.37  3.Qxe6 Kg6 4.Re3 h5
> 00:00:32  10.00  0.73  3.Qxe6 Kg6 4.Re3 h6
> 00:01:33  11.00  0.73  3.Qxe6 Kg6 4.Re3 h5
> 00:03:57  12.00  0.98  3.Qxe6 Kg6 4.Re3 h6
> 00:14:40  13.00  0.99  3.Qxe6 Kg6
>
>After 1.Na4
>
>[D]r2qkbnr/1b3ppp/p3p3/2ppN3/N2P1B2/8/PPP2PPP/R2QR1K1 b kq -
>
> 00:00:00   1.00  -1.12  1..cxd4 2.Qxd4
> 00:00:00   1.14  -1.08  1..c4
> 00:00:00   2.00  -1.28  1..c4 2.Qh5
> 00:00:00   2.01  -1.28  1..cxd4
> 00:00:00   2.01  -0.64  1..cxd4 2.Qxd4 Rc8
> 00:00:00   3.00  -0.61  1..cxd4 2.Qxd4 Rc8 3.Rac1
> 00:00:00   4.00  -0.23  1..cxd4 2.Qh5 g6 3.Qh3
> 00:00:00   5.00  -0.50  1..cxd4 2.Qxd4 f6 3.Nd3 e5 4.Ndc5
> 00:00:00   6.00  -0.52  1..cxd4 2.Qxd4 Rc8 3.Nb6 Bc5 4.Qa4 Bc6 5.Nxc6
> 00:00:00   7.00  -0.62  1..cxd4 2.Qxd4 f6 3.Nb6 fxe5 4.Rxe5 Qd6 5.Nxa8
>                         Bxa8 6.Qa4
> 00:00:00   8.00  -0.81  1..cxd4 2.Qxd4 Rc8 3.Nb6 Rc5 4.Nbd7 Rc8 5.Qa4
>                         Bc6 6.Nxc6
> 00:00:02   9.00  -1.04  1..cxd4 2.Qxd4 f6 3.Nd3 e5 4.Nxe5 fxe5 5.Bxe5
>                         Kf7 6.Bg3 Kg6 7.Qg4 Qg5
> 00:00:06  10.00  -1.13  1..cxd4 2.Qxd4 Qa5 3.Bd2 Qb5 4.c4 Qxa4 5.Qb6
>                         Ne7 6.Qxb7 Rc8
> 00:00:19  11.00  -1.69  1..cxd4 2.Qxd4 Qa5 3.Bd2 Qb5 4.c4 Qxa4 5.Qb6
>                         Ne7 6.b3 Qa3 7.Bb4 Qb2 8.Qxb7
> 00:00:34  11.01  -1.37  1..c4 2.b3 c3
> 00:00:42  11.02  -1.20  1..Rc8 2.Qh5 g6 3.Qh3 cxd4 4.Nxg6 fxg6 5.Be5
>                         Bc6 6.Bxh8 Bxa4 7.Qxe6 Ne7
> 00:00:59  12.00  -1.34  1..Rc8 2.Qh5 Qf6 3.Bg5 Qf5
> 00:01:16  12.01  -1.24  1..c4 2.b3 cxb3 3.Rb1 Rc8 4.Rxb3 Bc6 5.Nb6
>                         Rc7 6.Qh5
> 00:02:36  13.00  -1.43  1..c4 2.b3 c3
> 00:03:17  13.01  -1.36  1..Rc8 2.Qh5 g6 3.Qh3 cxd4 4.Nxg6 fxg6 5.Be5
>                         Bc6 6.Bxh8
> 00:06:59  14.00  -1.50  1..Rc8 2.Nxc5 Bxc5 3.dxc5 Rxc5 4.Qd4 Rb5 5.Nc6
>
> Groeten,
> Eelco


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Best Regards,
 Terry



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