Author: Roman Hartmann
Date: 05:38:06 05/13/05
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On May 13, 2005 at 05:42:28, Rolf Tueschen wrote: >Let us concentrate on my earlier question: who's controlling that process. >Taking - implementing - confessing or NOT? Do you think that all professionals >who would never open their code to the public won't give all these open sources >a single look? If you could prove it I would rest my case. :) > >Let's take Dann into our debate. He's judicially right. IF it comes to court >cases and you MUST open your code the truth would come out. But this is what I >say: Prior to such cases, the org of computerchess has no rights to pretend >eternal control over free amateur progs and professionals have a sort of elite, >untouchable status. Like I read months ago - after Graz - that the reason for >the org's actions was suspicions among participants. During the next Wch I offer >1000 € for some participant to ask about the clinical cleanness of SHREDDER, >just to begin with the possible winner of the tournament. Either Stefan opens >his source or he will be thrown out of the tournament not before the last four >rounds, just to make it suspense for the event. Just joking of course. Stefan is >an honorable man and all in his code was invented by Stefan! I'm pretty sure that most professional programmers have a look at the source code of open source/GPL chess engines from time to time. In fact I would wonder if they wouldn't do that. Now with Fruit 2.0 beeing among the 10 strongest chess programs and with the sources available, I guess that many of the commercial programmers will have a very close look at Fruit and some of them certainly will try to recycle some of the ideas used in Fruit. Even Shredder being the strongest engine available on the market has probably some room left for improvement. I don't see that much of a problem by reusing ideas as long as it doesn't turn out to be copy and paste in fact. But I certainly agree with your last statement that the professional and amateur participants in a computer tournament are not treated equally (no need to say more than List and Graz). It's highly unlikely that Frans Morsch or Stefan Meyer-Kahlen are forced to present their sources to some other chess programmers ... Roman
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