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Subject: Re: Test Position Opening.. Does Your Program Find Qe2!

Author: John Merlino

Date: 09:30:33 05/13/05

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On May 12, 2005 at 20:50:32, Terry McCracken wrote:

>On May 12, 2005 at 11:39:38, John Merlino wrote:
>
>>On May 12, 2005 at 02:37:23, Terry McCracken wrote:
>>
>>>Nxf7 is tempting but I believe Qe2 is stronger, with a killer threat of Nxf7!
>>>next move.
>>>
>>>This position is taken from a blitz game I played tonight.
>>>
>>>[D]r2qkbnr/1b3ppp/p3p3/2ppN3/3P1B2/2N5/PPP2PPP/R2QR1K1 w kq - 0 12
>>>
>>>Terry
>>
>>CM9_R1 on a P4-2.4 never considers either moves, and prefers Na4 with a good
>>score:
>>
>>Time	Depth	Score	Positions	Moves
>>0:00	1/4	1.04	13734		12.dxc5 Bxc5 13.Qg4 g6 14.Nd3
>>0:00	1/5	1.12	23697		12.dxc5 Bxc5 13.Nd3 Be7 14.Qg4 Bf6
>>0:00	1/6	1.21	84363		12.dxc5 Bxc5 13.Qg4 Qf6 14.Nd3
>>					h5 15.Qg3
>>0:01	1/7	1.04	203765		12.dxc5 Bxc5 13.Qh5 g6 14.Qf3 Rc8
>>					15.Be3 Qf6 16.Bxc5 Qxf3 17.Nxf3
>>					Rxc5
>>0:05	1/8	1.03	772074		12.dxc5 Bxc5 13.Nd3 Be7 14.Qg4
>>					Nf6 15.Qxg7 Rg8 16.Qh6
>>0:08	1/8	1.16	1323433		12.Na4 cxd4 13.Qxd4 Rc8 14.Qa7
>>					Qe7 15.Nf3 Qb4 16.Rac1
>>0:12	1/9	1.19	1904384		12.Na4 cxd4 13.Qxd4 f6 14.Nd3 e5
>>					15.Nac5 Qb6 16.Qa4+ Bc6 17.Qa3
>>0:25	2/10	1.22	4168922		12.Na4 cxd4 13.Qxd4 f6 14.Nb6 fxe5
>>					15.Bxe5 Ne7 16.Nxa8 Bxa8 17.Bxg7
>>1:40	2/11	1.41	18471216	12.Na4 cxd4 13.Qxd4 Qa5 14.Bd2
>>					Qb5 15.Re3 f6 16.Rb3 fxe5 17.Rxb5
>>					exd4 18.Rxb7
>>6:28	2/12	1.64	76297720	12.Na4 c4 13.Qh5 g6 14.Qf3 Rc8
>>					15.Nc5 Bxc5 16.dxc5 Qe7 17.Rad1
>>					Rxc5 18.Ng4 d4
>>
>>jm
>
>
>I still would go with Qe2!
>
>Look at play, and see if the computers will refute this.
>
>
>1.e4 c6 2.d4 d5 3.Nc3 e6 4.exd5 cxd5 5.Bb5+ Nc6 6.Nf3 Bd7 7.Bf4 a6
>8.Bxc6 bxc6 9.O-O c5 10.Re1 Bc6 11.Ne5 Bb7 12.Qe2 Nf6 13.Nxf7 Kxf7
>14.Qxe6+ Kg6 15.Re3 h6 16.Rg3+ Kh7 17.Qf7 Bc8 18.Rg6 Ng4 19.Nxd5 Ra7
>20.Nf6+ Qxf6 21.Rxf6 Rxf7 22.Rxf7 cxd4 23.Rc7 Bb4 24.h3 Nf6 25.Be5 Ba5
>26.Rc4 Re8 27.Bxf6 gxf6 28.Rxd4 ++-
>
>[D]2b1r3/7k/p4p1p/b7/3R4/7P/PPP2PP1/R5K1 b - - 0 28
>
>Terry

I cannot argue with your line at all. Playing all the way through it (relatively
quickly), I can find no obvious improvements for either side.

However, CM9_R1 analyzes the final position with a score of +1.65 for White,
which is only 0.01 better than the evaluation for 12.Na4 above:

Time	Depth	Score	Positions	Moves
0:00	1/5	1.72	8313		28...Re2 29.Rc4 Bb7 30.Rd1 Bb6
0:00	2/6	1.84	23589		28...Re2 29.Rc4 Be6 30.Rc6 Be1
					31.Kf1
0:00	2/6	1.81	48442		28...Bc7 29.Rad1 Rg8 30.R1d3 Be6
					31.Rc3
0:00	2/7	1.72	90635		28...Bc7 29.Rad1 Rg8 30.Rh4 Be5
					31.c3 Bb7
0:01	2/8	1.77	208932		28...Bc7 29.Rad1 Rg8 30.Kf1 Be6
					31.c4 Be5 32.Re4
0:02	3/9	1.74	507471		28...Bc7 29.Rad1 Re7 30.c4 Rg7
					31.Kf1 a5 32.g4 Be5
0:08	3/10	1.78	1776311		28...Bc7 29.c3 Rg8 30.Re1 Be5 31.Rh4
					Bf5 32.g3 Bd6 33.Rd1
0:10	3/10	1.63	2211053		28...Re2 29.Rc4 Bd7 30.Rf4 Kg6
					31.Rd1 Be6 32.Ra4 Bb6 33.Rxa6 Bxf2+
					34.Kf1
0:14	3/11	1.63	3055320		28...Re2 29.Rc1 Bb6 30.Rf4 f5 31.Kf1
					Rd2 32.Ke1 Rd6 33.Rd1 Rc6
0:24	4/12	1.61	5469654		28...Re2 29.Rc1 Bb6 30.Rf4 Kg6
					31.Kf1 Rd2 32.Ke1 Rd5 33.Rd1 Re5+
					34.Kf1 Bf5
1:05	5/13	1.70	16270274	28...Re2 29.Rc1 Bb6 30.Rf4 f5 31.Kf1
					Rd2 32.Ke1 Rd5 33.Rd1 Rb5 34.b4 Be6
3:58	6/14	1.65	59675268	28...Re2 29.Rc1 Bb6 30.Rf4 Kg7
					31.Kf1 Rd2 32.Ke1 Rd5 33.Rd1 Rb5
					34.b4 Re5+ 35.Kf1 Bf5

jm



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