Author: Terry McCracken
Date: 15:19:05 05/13/05
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On May 12, 2005 at 23:45:33, Eelco de Groot wrote: >On May 12, 2005 at 21:13:01, Terry McCracken wrote: > >>On May 12, 2005 at 11:09:37, Eelco de Groot wrote: >> >>>On May 12, 2005 at 02:37:23, Terry McCracken wrote: >>> >>>>Nxf7 is tempting but I believe Qe2 is stronger, with a killer threat of Nxf7! >>>>next move. >>>> >>>>This position is taken from a blitz game I played tonight. >>>> >>>>[D]r2qkbnr/1b3ppp/p3p3/2ppN3/3P1B2/2N5/PPP2PPP/R2QR1K1 w kq - 0 12 >>>> >>>>Terry >>> >>>Thanks for the testposition Terry! I'm testing the new mainframe -well that's >>>what I call it, it's an Athlon64 3200+ - and Pro Deo gets over 1.1 million nodes >>>per second! Because of the slightly different architecture, all Pro Deo >>>personalities behave differently too, compared to my Celeron(Pentium III) 500 >>>MHz. That has 256 kb L1 cache. The Athlon has a 512 kb cache I believe. I think >>>that influences Lazy eval, the amount of the eval function that can be held in >>>cache is different. Pro Deo 1.1 default settings does it better so far on this >>>machine, which is not surprising as I believe Ed has an Athlon 3400+ as his >>>development machine. >>> >>>Pro Deo 1.1 Betazoid T901 on a mainframe (Athlon 64 3200) would play 1.Qe2 in a >>>blitzgame but also likes Shredder's Na4 after a while: >>> >>>00:00:00.2 1,10 3 4386 Qe2 Qf6 Qe3 cxd4 >>>00:00:00.2 0,99 4 12335 Qe2 Qc8 Qh5 g6 >>>00:00:00.2 0,99 4 15288 dxc5 >>>00:00:00.2 1,27 4 18017 dxc5 Bxc5 Qg4 Qf6 Rad1 >>>00:00:00.2 0,84 5 39386 dxc5 Bxc5 Qg4 g6 Rad1 Rc8 >>>00:00:00.2 0,93 5 66855 a3 cxd4 Qxd4 Nf6 Qa4+ Nd7 >>>00:00:00.4 0,94 6 187849 a3 Rc8 dxc5 Bxc5 Qg4 Qf6 Rad1 >>>00:00:00.4 0,94 6 223993 Qe2 >>>00:00:00.5 1,20 6 249475 Qe2 Be7 dxc5 Bxc5 Nxf7 Kxf7 Qxe6+ Kf8 Be5 >>>00:00:00.6 0,89 7 345267 Qe2 Be7 dxc5 Bxc5 Rad1 Qh4 Na4 Bb4 >>>00:00:01.5 1,07 8 1162336 Qe2 Qf6 Qd2 Qh4 Rad1 cxd4 Qxd4 Bd6 >>>00:00:03.1 1,21 9 2835182 Qe2 Be7 dxc5 Bxc5 Na4 Bb4 c3 Be7 Rad1 >>>00:00:07.8 1,03 10 8010182 Qe2 g6 Na4 >>>00:00:27.8 1,09 11 31131848 Qe2 g6 Na4 >>>00:01:10.1 1,04 12 81566496 Qe2 Nf6 Nxf7 Kxf7 Qxe6+ Kg6 Re3 >>>00:01:48.2 1,04 12 126443446 Na4 >>>00:02:08.4 1,25 12 147685285 Na4 c4 Qe2 Be7 >>>00:02:57.0 1,25 13 204202070 Na4 c4 Qe2 Be7 >>>00:07:23.4 1,45 14 524384616 Na4 c4 b3 >>> >>>Pro Deo 1.1 default prefers 1.Qe2, but I didn't let it analyze very long. >>> >>> 00:00:00 3.12 0.97 1.Qe2 Qf6 2.Qe3 cxd4 3.Qxd4 Qf5 4.Nxd5 >>> 00:00:00 4.00 0.86 1.Qe2 Qc8 2.Qh5 g6 3.Nxg6 >>> 00:00:00 4.12 0.93 1.dxc5 Bxc5 2.Qg4 Kf8 3.Rad1 >>> 00:00:00 5.00 0.76 1.dxc5 Bxc5 2.Qg4 g6 3.Rad1 Rc8 >>> 00:00:00 5.03 0.81 1.a3 Nf6 2.f3 cxd4 >>> 00:00:00 6.00 0.66 1.a3 Nf6 2.dxc5 Bxc5 3.Na4 Bd6 4.f3 >>> 00:00:00 6.01 0.71 1.dxc5 Bxc5 2.Qg4 Qf6 3.Rad1 Nh6 4.Qg3 >>> 00:00:00 6.02 0.71 1.Qe2 >>> 00:00:00 6.02 0.94 1.Qe2 Be7 2.dxc5 Bxc5 3.Na4 Bd4 4.Rad1 Bxe5 >>> 00:00:00 7.00 0.80 1.Qe2 Be7 2.dxc5 Bxc5 3.Na4 Bb4 4.c3 Qh4 >>> 00:00:00 7.01 0.80 1.dxc5 >>> 00:00:00 7.01 1.23 1.dxc5 Bxc5 2.Qg4 g6 3.Nxf7 Kxf7 4.Qxe6 Kg7 >>> 5.Rad1 >>> 00:00:01 8.00 0.76 1.dxc5 Bxc5 2.Qg4 Kf8 3.Na4 Nf6 4.Qg3 Bb4 5.c3 >>> 00:00:01 8.01 1.02 1.Qe2 Bc8 2.dxc5 Bxc5 3.Qg4 g6 4.Na4 Nf6 5.Qh4 >>> 00:00:02 9.00 1.05 1.Qe2 Be7 2.dxc5 Bxc5 3.Na4 Bb4 4.c3 Qf6 5.Qe3 >>> Be7 >>> 00:00:07 10.00 0.89 1.Qe2 g6 2.Na4 >>> 00:00:09 10.02 1.10 1.Na4 cxd4 2.Qxd4 f6 3.Nb6 fxe5 4.Bxe5 Ra7 >>> 5.Bxg7 Bxg7 6.Qxg7 Qxb6 7.Qxh8 >>> 00:00:14 11.00 1.00 1.Na4 cxd4 2.Qxd4 Bd6 3.Nb6 Ra7 4.Qa4 Ke7 5.Nc6 >>> Bxc6 6.Qxc6 g5 7.Bxg5 Nf6 >>> 00:00:16 11.01 1.02 1.Qe2 g6 2.Na4 >>> 00:00:46 12.00 1.17 1.Qe2 Be7 2.Nb5 Qc8 3.Nc7 Qxc7 4.Ng6 Qb6 5.Nxh8 >>> Nf6 6.dxc5 Qxb2 >>> 00:01:28 13.00 0.98 1.Qe2 Nf6 2.Na4 >>> 00:01:54 13.01 1.16 1.Na4 c4 2.Qe2 Be7 3.b3 cxb3 4.Rab1 Qa5 5.Rxb3 >>> Qxa4 >>> 00:03:24 14.00 1.19 1.Na4 c4 2.Qe2 Be7 3.Nc5 Qc8 4.Ncd7 Qd8 5.Qh5 >>> g6 6.Qh3 Rc8 >>> 00:08:28 15.00 1.19 1.Na4 c4 2.Qh5 >>> 00:09:49 15.01 1.19 1.Qe2 >>> 00:10:30 15.01 1.20 1.Qe2 Nf6 2.Na4 >>> >>>Pro Deo Betazoid T8: >>> >>>Betazoid T8 met 200 Mb HT >>> >>>00:00:00.2 1,10 4 13619 dxc5 >>>00:00:00.2 1,27 4 14487 dxc5 Bxc5 Qg4 Qf6 Rad1 >>>00:00:00.2 0,86 5 26476 dxc5 Bxc5 Na4 Bb4 c3 Bd6 Qg4 Bxe5 >>>00:00:00.2 0,96 5 49764 a3 Nf6 Na4 Ne4 >>>00:00:00.3 0,95 6 98850 a3 Nf6 Qe2 Be7 dxc5 Bxc5 Nb5 >>>00:00:00.4 0,95 6 136292 Qe2 >>>00:00:00.4 1,10 6 147151 Qe2 Qf6 Qd2 Bd6 dxc5 Bxc5 Rad1 Bb4 Qd4 >>>00:00:00.6 0,94 7 331719 Qe2 Be7 dxc5 Bxc5 Qg4 Qf6 Rad1 Rc8 >>>00:00:01.7 1,08 8 1360316 Qe2 g6 Rad1 cxd4 Nxf7 Kxf7 Qxe6+ Kg7 >>>00:00:04.1 1,17 9 3758111 Qe2 Ne7 dxc5 Ng6 Qh5 Nxe5 Bxe5 Bxc5 Bxg7 Qb6 Bxh8 >>>Bxf2+ Kh1 >>>00:00:09.2 1,23 10 9566559 Qe2 Be7 dxc5 Bxc5 Na4 Bb4 c3 Be7 Qg4 Bf6 >>>00:00:24.3 0,97 11 27280865 Qe2 Nf6 Nxf7 Kxf7 Qxe6+ Kg6 >>>00:01:04.2 1,27 11 71561564 Na4 cxd4 Qxd4 Qa5 Bd2 Qb5 >>>00:01:22.6 1,15 12 92165008 Na4 cxd4 Qxd4 f6 Nd3 >>>00:04:05.4 1,36 13 279798298 Na4 c4 b3 Nf6 bxc4 dxc4 Rb1 Qd5 f3 Rd8 Qd2 >>>00:05:40.8 1,40 13 403437615 Qe2 Nf6 Na4 Ne4 >>>00:16:11.7 0,91 14 1200236572 Qe2 Nf6 Nxf7 Kxf7 Qxe6+ Kg6 >>>00:18:33.4 0,91 14 1351370531 Na4 >>>00:22:51.2 1,58 14 1638677720 Na4 c4 b3 cxb3 Rb1 Rc8 Rxb3 >>> >>>After 1.Qe2 Nf6 2.Nxf7 Kxf7 >>> >>>[D]r2q1b1r/1b3kpp/p3pn2/2pp4/3P1B2/2N5/PPP1QPPP/R3R1K1 w - - >>> >>> 00:00:00 1.00 -0.64 3.dxc5 >>> 00:00:00 1.03 2.96 3.Qxe6 Kg6 >>> 00:00:00 2.00 3.52 3.Qxe6 Kg6 4.Re5 h6 >>> 00:00:00 3.00 3.52 3.Qxe6 Kg6 4.Re5 h6 5.Kh7 dxc5 6.Bxc5 Qf7 7.Bd4 >>> a4 >>> 00:00:00 4.00 3.29 3.Qxe6 Kg6 4.Re5 h6 5.dxc5 Bxc5 6.Kh7 Qf7 7.Bd4 >>> a4 >>> 00:00:00 5.00 2.03 3.Qxe6 Kg6 4.dxc5 Bc8 5.Qe5 Kf7 6.b4 >>> 00:00:00 6.00 1.59 3.Qxe6 Kg6 4.Re5 h6 5.dxc5 Kh7 6.Qf7 Qd7 7.Qxf7 >>> 00:00:00 7.00 1.43 3.Qxe6 Kg6 4.Re5 h6 5.dxc5 Kh7 6.c6 Bc8 7.Qf7 >>> Qb6 >>> 00:00:02 8.00 1.37 3.Qxe6 Kg6 4.Re3 h5 >>> 00:00:06 9.00 1.37 3.Qxe6 Kg6 4.Re3 h5 >>> 00:00:32 10.00 0.73 3.Qxe6 Kg6 4.Re3 h6 >>> 00:01:33 11.00 0.73 3.Qxe6 Kg6 4.Re3 h5 >>> 00:03:57 12.00 0.98 3.Qxe6 Kg6 4.Re3 h6 >>> 00:14:40 13.00 0.99 3.Qxe6 Kg6 >>> >>>After 1.Na4 >>> >>>[D]r2qkbnr/1b3ppp/p3p3/2ppN3/N2P1B2/8/PPP2PPP/R2QR1K1 b kq - >>> >>> 00:00:00 1.00 -1.12 1..cxd4 2.Qxd4 >>> 00:00:00 1.14 -1.08 1..c4 >>> 00:00:00 2.00 -1.28 1..c4 2.Qh5 >>> 00:00:00 2.01 -1.28 1..cxd4 >>> 00:00:00 2.01 -0.64 1..cxd4 2.Qxd4 Rc8 >>> 00:00:00 3.00 -0.61 1..cxd4 2.Qxd4 Rc8 3.Rac1 >>> 00:00:00 4.00 -0.23 1..cxd4 2.Qh5 g6 3.Qh3 >>> 00:00:00 5.00 -0.50 1..cxd4 2.Qxd4 f6 3.Nd3 e5 4.Ndc5 >>> 00:00:00 6.00 -0.52 1..cxd4 2.Qxd4 Rc8 3.Nb6 Bc5 4.Qa4 Bc6 5.Nxc6 >>> 00:00:00 7.00 -0.62 1..cxd4 2.Qxd4 f6 3.Nb6 fxe5 4.Rxe5 Qd6 5.Nxa8 >>> Bxa8 6.Qa4 >>> 00:00:00 8.00 -0.81 1..cxd4 2.Qxd4 Rc8 3.Nb6 Rc5 4.Nbd7 Rc8 5.Qa4 >>> Bc6 6.Nxc6 >>> 00:00:02 9.00 -1.04 1..cxd4 2.Qxd4 f6 3.Nd3 e5 4.Nxe5 fxe5 5.Bxe5 >>> Kf7 6.Bg3 Kg6 7.Qg4 Qg5 >>> 00:00:06 10.00 -1.13 1..cxd4 2.Qxd4 Qa5 3.Bd2 Qb5 4.c4 Qxa4 5.Qb6 >>> Ne7 6.Qxb7 Rc8 >>> 00:00:19 11.00 -1.69 1..cxd4 2.Qxd4 Qa5 3.Bd2 Qb5 4.c4 Qxa4 5.Qb6 >>> Ne7 6.b3 Qa3 7.Bb4 Qb2 8.Qxb7 >>> 00:00:34 11.01 -1.37 1..c4 2.b3 c3 >>> 00:00:42 11.02 -1.20 1..Rc8 2.Qh5 g6 3.Qh3 cxd4 4.Nxg6 fxg6 5.Be5 >>> Bc6 6.Bxh8 Bxa4 7.Qxe6 Ne7 >>> 00:00:59 12.00 -1.34 1..Rc8 2.Qh5 Qf6 3.Bg5 Qf5 >>> 00:01:16 12.01 -1.24 1..c4 2.b3 cxb3 3.Rb1 Rc8 4.Rxb3 Bc6 5.Nb6 >>> Rc7 6.Qh5 >>> 00:02:36 13.00 -1.43 1..c4 2.b3 c3 >>> 00:03:17 13.01 -1.36 1..Rc8 2.Qh5 g6 3.Qh3 cxd4 4.Nxg6 fxg6 5.Be5 >>> Bc6 6.Bxh8 >>> 00:06:59 14.00 -1.50 1..Rc8 2.Nxc5 Bxc5 3.dxc5 Rxc5 4.Qd4 Rb5 5.Nc6 >>> >>> Groeten, >>> Eelco >> >> >>Check this post and run more analysis if you don't mind? >> >>http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?425707 >> >>Best Regards, >> Terry > >Hi Terry, > >Pro deo 1.1 Betazoid T8 agrees with all the moves from you and from Black that I >checked after 12.Qe2, just with a steady advantage of about one pawn for White. >That does not mean it is not winning, just that the computerprogram is a bit >less comfortable declaring the position a win already because White's pawn >triplets are almost certainly going to prevail in the end over those two Bishops >(in your final position). As long as it plays the right moves! > >So from a programming point I think it is prudent not to give the final position >a too high value for White, if you can't be sure you have covered in your eval >function possible exceptions there might be, where a Bishop duo might kill off a >few pawns. >And the conversion is still a long way off, that also counts for something? > >[Event "?"] >[Site "?"] >[Date "13/5/2005"] >[Round "?"] >[White "Terry McCracken"] >[Black "Pro Deo 1.0 - Betazoid T8"] >[Result "1-0"] >[Opening "B15 Caro-Kann Defense"] > >1. e4 c6 2. d4 d5 3. Nc3 e6 4. exd5 cxd5 5. Bb5+ Nc6 6. Nf3 Bd7 7. Bf4 a6 8. >Bxc6 bxc6 9. O-O >c5 10. Re1 Bc6 11. Ne5 Bb7 12. Qe2 Nf6 13. Nxf7 Kxf7 14. Qxe6+ Kg6 15. Re3 h6 >16. Rg3+ >Kh7 17. Qf7 Bc8 18. Rg6 Ng4 19. Nxd5 Ra7 20. Nf6+ Qxf6 21. Rxf6 Rxf7 22. Rxf7 >cxd4 23. Rc7 >Bb4 24. h3 Nf6 25. Be5 Ba5 26. Rc4 Re8 27. Bxf6 gxf6 28. Rxd4 1-0 > > > > >Betazoid T8 after 15.Re3 > > >00:00:00.2 -2,01 1 4 cxd4 >00:00:00.2 -0,93 1 54 Kh5 >00:00:00.2 -Mate in 2 2 944 Kh5 Rh3+ Kg6 Rg3+ Kh5 Qh3# >00:00:00.2 -3,30 2 1354 h6 Re5 cxd4 >00:00:00.2 -0,95 3 5661 h6 dxc5 Kh7 >00:00:00.2 -0,95 4 5823 h6 dxc5 Kh7 >00:00:00.3 -0,98 5 12779 h6 Rg3+ Kh7 Re1 cxd4 >00:00:00.3 -0,97 6 37016 h6 Rg3+ Kh7 dxc5 Bxc5 Re1 >00:00:00.4 -1,31 7 113490 h6 dxc5 Kh7 c6 Bc8 Qf7 >00:00:01.5 -1,14 8 1256525 h6 Rg3+ Kh7 Qf7 Bc8 Rg6 Ng4 dxc5 >00:00:02.9 -1,14 8 2993260 h5 >00:00:04.9 -0,88 8 5323427 h5 Rg3+ Kh7 Qf7 cxd4 Ne2 Bc8 Rg6 Ng4 Rc6 >00:00:08.6 -0,49 9 9874838 h5 Rg3+ Kh7 Qf7 cxd4 Ne2 Bc8 Rg6 Ng4 Nxd4 Qh4 >00:00:08.8 -0,49 10 10033828 h5 Rg3+ Kh7 Qf7 cxd4 Ne2 Bc8 Rg6 Ng4 Nxd4 Qh4 >00:00:24.1 -0,62 11 30725805 h5 Rg3+ Kh7 Qf7 cxd4 Na4 Ra7 Rg6 Ng4 Re6 Bc8 Qxh5+ >00:01:24.1 -1,40 12 113928017 h5 Rg3+ Kh7 Qf7 cxd4 Na4 Qd7 Qg6+ Kg8 Qxf6 Re8 Nb6 >00:01:44.3 -1,03 12 140773558 h6 Rg3+ Kh7 Qf7 Bc8 Qg6+ Kg8 Be5 >00:03:10.5 -0,94 13 253409809 h6 Rg3+ Kh7 Qf7 Bc8 Rg6 Ng4 Nxd5 Ra7 Qxa7 Qxd5 Rb6 > >After 19..Ra7 > >00:00:00.2 0,98 1 51 Qxa7 Qxd5 >00:00:00.2 0,98 2 431 Qxa7 Qxd5 >00:00:00.2 1,08 3 1748 Qxa7 Qxd5 Rb6 cxd4 >00:00:00.2 1,03 4 7772 Qxa7 Qxd5 Rb6 Be6 >00:00:00.3 0,96 5 20481 Qxa7 Qxd5 Rb6 Kg8 Re1 cxd4 >00:00:00.3 0,44 6 63588 Qxa7 Qxd5 Rb6 Qxd4 Bg3 Nf6 >00:00:00.3 0,48 6 102958 Nf6+ Qxf6 Rxf6 Rxf7 Rxf7 cxd4 Rd1 Be6 Ra7 >00:00:00.3 0,48 7 126168 Nf6+ Qxf6 Rxf6 Rxf7 Rxf7 cxd4 Rd1 Be6 Ra7 >00:00:00.4 0,48 7 137423 Qxa7 >00:00:00.4 0,90 7 178962 Qxa7 Qxd5 Rb6 Qxd4 Bg3 Qe4 Rd1 Qxc2 >00:00:00.6 0,55 8 395625 Qxa7 Kxg6 c4 Qd7 Qb6+ Qe6 Qc7 cxd4 >00:00:00.6 0,74 8 441335 Nf6+ Qxf6 Rxf6 Rxf7 Rxf7 cxd4 Rd1 Bc5 Rc7 Bb6 Re7 >00:00:00.9 0,74 9 844278 Nf6+ Qxf6 Rxf6 Rxf7 Rxf7 cxd4 Rd1 Bc5 Rc7 Bb6 Re7 >00:00:01.7 0,76 10 1942220 Nf6+ Qxf6 Rxf6 Rxf7 Rxf7 cxd4 h3 Nf6 Be5 Be6 Ra7 Bc5 >Rxa6 >00:00:03.6 0,76 11 4616044 Nf6+ Qxf6 Rxf6 Rxf7 Rxf7 cxd4 h3 Nf6 Be5 Be6 Ra7 Bc5 >Rxa6 >00:00:09.3 0,84 12 12502634 Nf6+ Qxf6 Rxf6 Rxf7 Rxf7 cxd4 h3 Nf6 Be5 Kg6 Rc7 Bf5 >Bxd4 Bd6 >00:00:20.2 0,84 13 28554525 Nf6+ Qxf6 Rxf6 Rxf7 Rxf7 cxd4 h3 Nf6 Be5 Kg6 Rc7 Bf5 >Bxd4 Bd6 >00:01:05.8 1,04 14 92615962 Nf6+ Qxf6 Rxf6 Rxf7 Rxf7 cxd4 h3 Nf6 Be5 Kg6 Rc7 Bf5 >Rc6 a5 Bxd4 Bb4 Rd1 >00:02:32.6 1,04 15 217310496 Nf6+ Qxf6 Rxf6 Rxf7 Rxf7 cxd4 h3 Nf6 Be5 Kg6 Rc7 > >After 23.Rc7: > >00:00:00.2 -3,57 1 21 Ne3 fxe3 >00:00:00.2 -3,34 1 38 Ba3 bxa3 >00:00:00.2 -0,15 1 40 Bb4 >00:00:00.2 -0,20 2 190 Bb4 Rd1 >00:00:00.2 -0,68 3 954 Bb4 Rc4 Rf8 Rxd4 >00:00:00.2 -0,68 4 2431 Bb4 Rc4 Rf8 Rxd4 >00:00:00.2 -0,74 5 6299 Bb4 Rc4 Rf8 Rxd4 Bc5 >00:00:00.3 -0,70 6 23453 Bb4 h3 Nf6 Rc4 Nd5 Rxd4 >00:00:00.3 -0,73 7 54659 Bb4 h3 Nf6 Rc4 Nd5 a3 Nxf4 axb4 >00:00:00.3 -0,77 8 110423 Bb4 h3 Nf6 Rc4 Ba5 Rxd4 Bb6 Rdd1 >00:00:00.5 -0,82 9 325111 Bb4 Rc4 Ba5 h3 Nf6 Rxd4 Bb6 Rd6 Bc5 Rdd1 >00:00:00.9 -0,82 10 841443 Bb4 Rc4 Ba5 h3 Nf6 Rxd4 Bb6 Rd6 Bc5 Rdd1 >00:00:01.2 -0,78 10 1150497 Bf5 Rd1 d3 cxd3 Nf6 Be5 >00:00:01.8 -0,95 11 1967735 Bf5 Rd1 d3 cxd3 Nf6 Rc6 a5 Rdc1 Bxd3 Rc7 >00:00:02.4 -0,82 11 2735620 Bb4 Rc4 Ba5 h3 Nf6 Rxd4 Bb6 Rd6 Bc5 Rdd1 >00:00:05.0 -0,76 12 6155190 Bb4 Rc4 Ba5 h3 Nf6 Rxd4 Bb6 Rd3 Bf5 Rd6 Bc5 Rxa6 >Bxc2 >00:00:10.7 -0,91 13 14050267 Bb4 Rc4 Ba5 h3 Nf6 Be5 Rg8 Rxd4 Nd7 Rd5 Bb4 >00:00:21.4 -0,99 14 29752789 Bb4 Rc4 Ba5 h3 Nf6 Be5 Rd8 Bxf6 >00:00:45.8 -0,91 15 65098210 Bb4 Rc4 Ba5 h3 Nf6 Be5 Re8 Bxf6 gxf6 Rxd4 >00:01:35.1 -0,94 16 140441374 Bb4 h3 Nf6 Be5 Nd7 Bxd4 >00:06:32.3 -1,14 17 568019821 Bb4 h3 Nf6 Be5 Nd7 Bxd4 > >After 26.Rc4 > >00:00:00.2 -1,21 4 3112 Bb6 Bxf6 gxf6 Rc6 >00:00:00.2 -0,61 4 3954 Nd7 Bxd4 Re8 Rd1 Nb8 Rc5 Bb4 Rc7 Nd7 Bc3 Bc5 Rdxd7 Rf8 >Rxc5 Bxd7 Kh2 Rxf2 >00:00:00.3 -0,73 5 9562 Nd7 Bxd4 Bb7 Bc3 Bb6 Re1 Rg8 Re7 Bc8 Rxg7+ Rxg7 Bxg7 >00:00:00.3 -1,07 6 22133 Nd7 Bc7 Bxc7 >00:00:00.3 -1,07 6 32181 d3 Bxf6 gxf6 b4 Be6 Re4 >00:00:00.3 -0,96 6 54340 Re8 Bxf6 gxf6 Rxd4 Re2 Rc1 Bf5 >00:00:00.4 -0,88 7 90801 Re8 Bxf6 gxf6 b4 Be6 Rxd4 Bc7 Re1 Be5 >00:00:00.4 -1,05 8 171125 Re8 Bxf6 gxf6 b4 Be6 Rxd4 Bc7 Rad1 Be5 >00:00:00.7 -1,02 8 411318 Rd8 Rxd4 Nd7 >00:00:00.7 -1,12 9 546713 Rd8 Rxd4 Nd7 >00:00:00.8 -1,05 9 610492 Re8 Bxf6 gxf6 b4 Be6 Rxd4 Bc7 Rad1 Be5 >00:00:01.0 -1,03 9 842180 Nd7 Bc7 Bxc7 >00:00:01.2 -1,11 10 1072676 Nd7 Bc7 Bxc7 >00:00:01.4 -0,92 10 1301823 Re8 Bxf6 gxf6 Rd1 Bf5 Rdxd4 >00:00:02.7 -1,06 11 3054988 Re8 Bxf6 gxf6 Rd1 Kg6 Rcxd4 Re2 Rc4 Bf5 >00:00:05.7 -1,12 12 7006719 Re8 Bxf6 gxf6 Rd1 Kg6 Rcxd4 Re2 Rc4 Bb7 Rd6 Rd2 Rxd2 >00:00:18.3 -1,13 13 24028894 Re8 Bxf6 gxf6 Rd1 Kg6 Rcxd4 Re2 Rc4 Bb7 Kf1 >00:00:38.9 -1,17 14 52635556 Re8 Bxf6 gxf6 Rd1 Kg6 Rcxd4 Re2 Rd5 Bb6 g3 Bxh3 Kh2 >00:01:33.2 -1,17 15 127463207 Re8 Bxf6 gxf6 Rd1 Kg6 Rcxd4 Re2 Rc4 Bf5 > >After 28.Rxd4 > >[D]2b1r3/7k/p4p1p/b7/3R4/7P/PPP2PP1/R5K1 b - - > >00:00:00.2 -1,13 1 4 Kg6 >00:00:00.2 -1,08 1 13 Bf5 >00:00:00.2 -1,05 1 30 Bb6 >00:00:00.2 -1,01 1 61 Re2 >00:00:00.2 -0,99 2 254 Re2 Rd5 >00:00:00.2 -0,91 3 1060 Re2 Rc1 >00:00:00.2 -0,74 4 4328 Re2 Rc1 >00:00:00.2 -0,73 5 9206 Re2 Rc1 >00:00:00.2 -0,74 6 21890 Re2 Rc1 >00:00:00.3 -0,71 7 51616 Re2 Rc1 >00:00:00.3 -0,74 8 119239 Re2 Rc1 >00:00:00.6 -0,83 9 360309 Re2 Rc1 >00:00:01.0 -0,86 10 898293 Re2 Rc1 >00:00:02.4 -0,83 11 2550387 Re2 Rc4 Bd7 Rd1 Be8 Rc8 Bb6 Rd6 Bxf2+ >00:00:04.7 -0,92 12 5528129 Re2 Rc4 Bd7 Rd1 Bb5 Rc8 Bb6 c4 Bxf2+ Kf1 Rc2 cxb5 >Rxc8 Kxf2 >00:00:17.7 -0,82 13 22230364 Re2 Rc4 Bd7 Rd1 Bb5 Rf4 >00:00:26.7 -0,92 14 34830482 Re2 Rc4 Bd7 Rd1 Bb5 f3 Bxc4 Kh2 >00:01:22.1 -0,92 15 108371623 Re2 Rc4 Bd7 Rd1 Bb5 Rc8 Bb6 c4 Rxf2 Rd6 Be3 Rd3 >Rf3+ Rxe3 Rxe3 cxb5 axb5 >00:03:40.2 -0,92 16 293493660 Re2 Rc4 Bd7 Rd1 Bb5 Rc8 Re6 Kh2 >00:17:26.6 -1,22 17 1359028774 Re2 Rc4 Bd7 Rd1 > >Groeten, Eelco Thanks again Eelco...it appears Na4 is the best tactical move, Qe2 although stategical may not win as fast see my post to John. http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?425871 Terry
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