Author: Uri Blass
Date: 05:40:05 05/14/05
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On May 14, 2005 at 05:47:46, Eduard Nemeth wrote:
>On May 14, 2005 at 01:30:06, Drexel,Michael wrote:
>
>>On May 13, 2005 at 22:47:19, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>>On May 13, 2005 at 13:48:27, Pablo Ignacio Restrepo wrote:
>>>
>>>>Hello Robert
>>>>It was a mistake in redaction. Antiajedrez or Antichess have been my extreme
>>>>anticomputer style, across I have won many times many top engines in all time
>>>>game control. But usually Crafty have been for me a real problem for beat, iqual
>>>>than Rufian, Tiger Gambit 2.0 , Quark .....
>>>>Usually I am playing into playchess. There I have won many top engines, but to
>>>>repeat..... Craftuy have ben very strong, but today in morning look ...... 2
>>>>easy draw. Why?
>>>>Regard,
>>>>Pablo
>>>
>>>Mainly caused by a pretty wide opening book. I would not play the Guico as
>>>white against a strong human, it is too drawish.
>>
>>Mainly caused by playing a mean trick:
>>
>>Tell your opponent he is playing Crafty and play the game yourself instead.
>>You might get an easy draw against a higher rated opponent. :)
>>
>>Michael
>
>
>Was here a trick in the game? ;)
>
>(Accound Kendo is Jörg Wegerle, a strong and sympatic german Chess Player)
>
>[Event "1m + 0s, unrated"]
>[Site "?"]
>[Date "2005.05.12"]
>[Round "?"]
>[White "Comp Fritz, Deep Fritz 8"]
>[Black "Kendo"]
>[Result "0-1"]
>[ECO "C62"]
>[PlyCount "306"]
>[EventDate "2005.04.30"]
>
>1. e4 {0} d6 {2} 2. d4 {0} e5 {3} 3. Nf3 {0} Nc6 {2} 4. Bb5 {0} exd4 {2} 5.
>Qxd4 {0} Bd7 {1} 6. Bxc6 {0} Bxc6 {0} 7. Nc3 {0} Qf6 {3} 8. Be3 {0.86/10 1}
>Qxd4 {1} 9. Nxd4 {0.80/9 0} Be7 {2} 10. O-O-O {0.96/10 3} Bf6 {1} 11. f4 {
>0.91/10 3} Ne7 {3} 12. g4 {0.89/9 2} Bxd4 {1} 13. Bxd4 {0.77/10 1} O-O {0} 14.
>Kd2 {0.98/10 2} b6 {1} 15. Rhe1 {0.89/10 4} Rfe8 {1} 16. h3 {0.83/10 2} Ng6 {1}
>17. Ke3 {0.69/10 0} f6 {1} 18. Kf3 {0.98/9 2} Re7 {1} 19. Nd5 {1.19/11 1} Bxd5
>{2} 20. exd5 {1.14/11 0} Rae8 {1} 21. Rxe7 {1.25/11 1} Rxe7 {0} 22. Be3 {
>1.18/11 1} Kf7 {1} 23. c4 {1.26/11 0} a5 {1} 24. b3 {1.36/11 1} Nf8 {3} 25. a3
>{1.38/12 3} Re8 {2} 26. b4 {1.45/10 1} axb4 {0} 27. axb4 {1.31/11 1} Ra8 {0}
>28. Re1 {1.34/9 1} Nd7 {1} 29. Ke4 {1.20/10 1} g6 {1} 30. Kd4 {1.02/9 2} Ra3 {1
>} 31. Rd1 {0.76/10 0} f5 {3} 32. Rd3 {0.86/10 1} Rxd3+ {1} 33. Kxd3 {1.07/7 0}
>Nf6 {0} 34. g5 {0.83/13 1} Ne4 {1} 35. Bd4 {0.80/14 0} Ke7 {1} 36. Kc2 {
>0.71/15 0} Kd7 {0} 37. Be3 {0.73/14 0} Kc8 {0} 38. Kd3 {0.75/13 1} Kb7 {0} 39.
>b5 {0.87/14 1} Kc8 {1} 40. Bd4 {0.71/16 0} Kd7 {0} 41. Ke3 {0.81/15 0} Kc8 {0}
>42. Bh8 {0.82/16 1} Kd7 {0} 43. Bg7 {0.69/16 0} Ke8 {0} 44. Bb2 {0.82/16 1} Kd7
>{0} 45. Ke2 {0.82/15 0} Kc8 {0} 46. Ba1 {0.78/15 1} Kd7 {0} 47. Bd4 {0.73/15 0}
>Kc8 {0} 48. Ke1 {0.87/15 1} Kd7 {0} 49. Kd1 {0.88/16 1} Kc8 {0} 50. Kc2 {
>0.91/15 0} Kb7 {0} 51. Kb3 {0.76/14 0} Kc8 {0} 52. Ka3 {0.71/15 0} Kb7 {0} 53.
>Kb2 {0.75/14 0} Kc8 {0} 54. Kc1 {0.77/13 0} Kb7 {0} 55. h4 {0.82/14 0} Ka7 {0}
>56. Kc2 {0.84/15 1} Kb7 {0} 57. Kd3 {0.60/15 1} Ka7 {0} 58. Bc3 {0.72/14 0} Kb7
>{0} 59. Bg7 {0.72/14 0} Ka7 {0} 60. Bb2 {0.76/14 0} Kb7 {0} 61. Ke3 {0.69/15 0}
>Kc8 {0} 62. Kd4 {0.68/15 0} Kb7 {0} 63. Bc3 {0.70/15 0} Kc8 {0} 64. Ba1 {
>0.72/14 0} Kb7 {0} 65. Kd3 {0.61/15 0} Kc8 {0} 66. Ke3 {0.65/15 0} Kb7 {0} 67.
>Bg7 {0.61/15 0} Kc8 {0} 68. Bd4 {0.70/15 0} Kb7 {0} 69. Bh8 {0.65/15 0} Kb8 {1}
>70. Kd4 {0.69/15 0} Kb7 {0} 71. Kd3 {0.71/14 0} Kc8 {0} 72. Bg7 {0.66/13 0} Kb7
>{0} 73. Kc2 {0.57/13 0} Kc8 {0} 74. Bb2 {0.70/14 0} Kb7 {0} 75. Bc3 {0.69/15 0}
>Kc8 {0} 76. Bh8 {0.66/14 0} Kb7 {0} 77. Kd1 {0.65/14 0} Kc8 {0} 78. Bd4 {
>0.64/15 0} Kb7 {0} 79. Be3 {0.71/15 0} Kc8 {0} 80. Kc2 {0.59/15 0} Kb7 {0} 81.
>Kd3 {0.65/15 0} Kc8 {0} 82. Ke2 {0.70/13 0} Kb7 {0} 83. Bc1 {0.70/15 0} Kc8 {0}
>84. Bb2 {0.70/14 0} Kb7 {0} 85. Ba3 {0.64/13 0} Kc8 {0} 86. Kd3 {0.66/13 0} Kb7
>{0} 87. Ke3 {0.57/14 0} Kc8 {0} 88. Bb4 {0.55/15 0} Kd7 {0} 89. Bd2 {0.65/13 0}
>Kc8 {0} 90. Kd3 {0.65/14 0} Kd7 {0} 91. Bc3 {0.64/13 0} Ke7 {0} 92. Bh8 {
>0.64/13 0} Kd7 {0} 93. Bd4 {0.53/14 0} Kc8 {0} 94. Ke2 {0.63/14 0} Kb7 {0} 95.
>Bg7 {0.72/13 0} Ka7 {0} 96. Ke1 {0.64/13 0} Kb7 {0} 97. Bd4 {0.44/13 0} Kc8 {0}
>98. Bb2 {0.28/14 0} Kb7 {0} 99. Bc1 {0.40/12 0} Kc8 {0} 100. Be3 {0.40/10 0}
>Kb7 {0} 101. h5 {0.01/11 0} Kc8 {0} 102. h6 {1.00/14 0} Kb7 {1} 103. Ke2 {
>1.12/14 0} Ka7 {0} 104. Kd3 {1.00/16 0} Kb7 {0} 105. Bd4 {0.94/17 0} Ka7 {0}
>106. Bb2 {1.01/14 0} Kb7 {0} 107. Kd4 {1.01/16 0} Ka7 {0} 108. Ke3 {1.00/15 0}
>Kb7 {0} 109. Bg7 {1.00/16 0} Ka7 {0} 110. Bf6 {1.00/14 0} Kb7 {0} 111. Bd4 {
>0.99/15 0} Kc8 {0} 112. Kd3 {0.99/15 0} Kb7 {0} 113. Bc3 {1.07/14 0} Kc8 {0}
>114. Bg7 {0.98/15 0} Kb7 {0} 115. Ba1 {0.99/15 0} Kc8 {0} 116. Ke3 {0.94/16 0}
>Kb7 {0} 117. Ke2 {0.93/15 0} Kc8 {0} 118. Bg7 {1.06/15 0} Kb7 {0} 119. Bd4 {
>1.01/14 0} Kc8 {0} 120. Bh8 {0.96/15 0} Kb7 {0} 121. Kd3 {0.95/15 0} Kb8 {0}
>122. Kd4 {0.94/16 0} Kb7 {0} 123. Bf6 {0.85/14 0} Nc5 {0} 124. Be7 {0.88/16 0}
>Ne4 {0} 125. Bf8 {0.82/16 0} Nc5 {1} 126. Kc3 {0.82/15 0} Ne4+ {0} 127. Kd3 {
>0.89/16 0} Kc8 {0} 128. Kc2 {0.88/15 0} Kd7 {0} 129. Bg7 {0.88/13 0} Nc5 {0}
>130. Bb2 {0.88/15 0} Ne4 {0} 131. Bd4 {0.93/15 0} Kc8 {0} 132. Bc3 {0.88/13 0}
>Kb7 {0} 133. Bd2 {0.88/15 0} Kb8 {0} 134. Bc1 {0.93/16 0} Kb7 {0} 135. Bb2 {
>0.88/15 0} Kb8 {0} 136. Bg7 {0.88/16 0} Kb7 {0} 137. Bh8 {0.92/14 0} Kc8 {0}
>138. Kd1 {0.94/15 0} Kd7 {0} 139. Bg7 {0.88/13 0} Kc8 {0} 140. Bd4 {0.88/15 0}
>Kd7 {0} 141. Bb2 {0.93/14 0} Ng3 {0} 142. Ke1 {0.98/15 0} Ne4 {0} 143. Ke2 {
>0.98/15 0} Nc5 {0} 144. Ke3 {0.94/14 0} Ne4 {0} 145. Kd4 {0.88/13 0} Kc8 {0}
>146. Ba3 {-0.03/14 0} Kb7 {0} 147. Bb4 {-0.15/13 0} Kc8 {0} 148. Kd3 {0.00/15 0
>} Kd7 {0} 149. Kc2 {0.00/16 0} Nc5 {0} 150. Bxc5 {1.49/14 0} dxc5 {0} 151. Kd3
>{1.59/17 0} Kd6 {0} 152. Ke2 {1.59/23 0} Ke7 {0} 153. Kf3 {1.23/21 0} Kd6 {
>Time (Lag: Av=0.48s, max=3.2s) 0} 0-1
>
>153 moves in a game 1+0!
>
>How is the trick?
>
>And now "Father" (Pablo):
>
>[Event "1m + 0s, unrated"]
>[Site "?"]
>[Date "2005.05.12"]
>[Round "?"]
>[White "Comp Fritz, Deep Fritz 8"]
>[Black "Father"]
>[Result "0-1"]
>[ECO "C00"]
>[PlyCount "338"]
>[EventDate "2005.04.30"]
>
>1. e4 {0} e6 {1} 2. d4 {0} Nf6 {1} 3. Bg5 {0} Be7 {1} 4. Bd3 {0} d5 {1} 5. e5 {
>0.48/10 1} Ng8 {1} 6. Bxe7 {0.70/10 2} Qxe7 {1} 7. Qg4 {0.89/10 2} f5 {2} 8.
>Qg3 {0.95/10 2} c6 {1} 9. Nd2 {1.16/11 3} Nd7 {1} 10. Ngf3 {1.31/10 2} Nf8 {0}
>11. O-O {1.59/10 2} g6 {0} 12. b3 {2.00/8 1} a6 {0} 13. c4 {2.14/9 1} Ra7 {1}
>14. Rfc1 {2.55/8 1} Bd7 {1} 15. a4 {2.69/8 1} h6 {3} 16. a5 {2.63/9 1} Rh7 {1}
>17. Qf4 {3.61/6 0} Rg7 {1} 18. g4 {3.32/6 0} Qf7 {2} 19. g5 {3.07/8 1} h5 {1}
>20. b4 {3.77/7 0} Qe7 {1} 21. Rab1 {3.93/8 0} Rh7 {1} 22. Bc2 {4.54/6 0} Kf7 {1
>} 23. Ne1 {3.74/9 0} Kg7 {0} 24. Nd3 {3.65/8 0} Kh8 {0} 25. Nc5 {3.71/7 0} Qe8
>{1} 26. Bd1 {3.99/7 0} Rg7 {1} 27. Bf3 {3.91/7 0} Ne7 {2} 28. Qh4 {3.70/8 0}
>Kg8 {2} 29. Rc2 {3.75/7 0} Rh7 {1} 30. Rbc1 {3.75/7 0} Kh8 {0} 31. Rb2 {
>3.95/6 0} Kg8 {0} 32. Rd1 {3.74/6 0} Kh8 {0} 33. Rc2 {3.75/6 0} Kg8 {0} 34. Kg2
>{3.71/7 0} Kh8 {0} 35. Kh1 {3.70/6 0} Kg8 {0} 36. Qh3 {3.71/7 0} Kh8 {0} 37.
>Rcc1 {3.75/6 0} Kg8 {0} 38. Bg2 {3.70/7 0} Kh8 {0} 39. Kg1 {3.80/6 0} Kg8 {0}
>40. Bh1 {3.82/6 0} Kh8 {0} 41. Qf3 {3.75/7 0} Kg8 {0} 42. Bg2 {3.54/8 1} Kh8 {0
>} 43. Rb1 {3.77/6 0} Kg8 {0} 44. Qf4 {3.61/8 1} Kh8 {0} 45. Rbc1 {3.69/6 0} Kg8
>{0} 46. Re1 {3.74/7 0} Kh8 {0} 47. Rc3 {3.80/6 0} Kg8 {0} 48. Qh4 {3.77/6 0}
>Kh8 {0} 49. Rec1 {3.82/6 0} Kg8 {0} 50. Bh1 {3.86/6 0} Kh8 {0} 51. Qf4 {
>3.77/6 0} Kg8 {0} 52. R1c2 {3.66/7 0} Kh8 {0} 53. Bf3 {3.82/6 0} Kg8 {0} 54.
>Qh4 {3.79/7 0} Kh8 {0} 55. Bg2 {3.89/6 0} Kg8 {0} 56. Rd3 {3.82/6 0} Kh8 {0}
>57. Rg3 {3.80/6 0} Kg8 {0} 58. Rh3 {3.70/6 0} Kh8 {0} 59. Rc1 {3.85/6 0} Kg8 {0
>} 60. Rf3 {3.73/6 0} Kh8 {0} 61. Qf4 {3.83/6 0} Kg8 {0} 62. Rh3 {3.71/6 0} Kh8
>{0} 63. Nf1 {3.84/6 0} Kg8 {0} 64. Ne3 {3.87/7 0} Kh8 {0} 65. Qf3 {3.97/6 0}
>Kg8 {0} 66. Rc2 {4.00/6 0} Kh8 {0} 67. Bf1 {4.06/6 0} Kg8 {0} 68. Be2 {3.78/6 0
>} Kh8 {0} 69. Rh4 {3.66/6 0} Kg8 {0} 70. h3 {3.41/8 0} Kh8 {0} 71. Rc1 {
>3.85/7 0} Kg8 {0} 72. Rf4 {3.72/6 0} Kh8 {0} 73. Bf1 {3.88/6 0} Kg8 {0} 74. Rc2
>{3.79/6 0} Kh8 {0} 75. Rh4 {3.85/6 0} Kg8 {0} 76. Ng2 {3.92/6 0} Kh8 {0} 77.
>Nf4 {3.81/7 0} Kg8 {0} 78. Rc3 {3.90/6 0} Kh8 {0} 79. Rc1 {4.05/6 0} Kg8 {0}
>80. Ng2 {3.79/6 0} Kh8 {0} 81. Ne3 {3.82/6 0} Kg8 {0} 82. Bg2 {3.80/6 0} Kh8 {0
>} 83. Rf4 {3.83/6 0} Kg8 {0} 84. Qe2 {3.60/8 1} Kh8 {0} 85. Rc2 {3.83/5 0} Kg8
>{0} 86. Qf3 {3.69/6 0} Kh8 {0} 87. Rh4 {3.84/6 0} Kg8 {0} 88. Nf1 {3.79/6 0}
>Kh8 {0} 89. Nd2 {3.88/6 0} Kg8 {0} 90. Rc1 {3.69/7 0} Kh8 {0} 91. Rf4 {3.81/6 0
>} Kg8 {0} 92. Rc3 {3.69/7 0} Kh8 {0} 93. Nf1 {3.86/6 0} Kg8 {0} 94. Ne3 {
>3.77/6 0} Kh8 {0} 95. Rh4 {3.82/6 0} Kg8 {0} 96. Qg3 {3.68/8 1} Kh8 {0} 97. Rf4
>{3.92/6 0} Kg8 {0} 98. Rc1 {3.72/7 0} Kh8 {0} 99. Rh4 {3.81/6 0} Kg8 {0} 100.
>Rc2 {3.74/7 0} Kh8 {0} 101. Rf4 {3.80/6 0} Kg8 {0} 102. Kh2 {3.71/6 0} Kh8 {0}
>103. Rc1 {3.83/6 0} Kg8 {0} 104. Bf3 {3.71/6 0} Kh8 {0} 105. Qh4 {3.73/6 0} Kg8
>{0} 106. Kh1 {3.68/6 0} Kh8 {0} 107. Qg3 {3.69/6 0} Kg8 {0} 108. Rc3 {3.71/6 0}
>Kh8 {0} 109. Qh4 {3.81/6 0} Kg8 {0} 110. Bg2 {3.68/6 0} Kh8 {0} 111. Rc2 {
>3.79/6 0} Kg8 {1} 112. Rc1 {3.69/6 0} Kh8 {0} 113. Qg3 {3.82/6 0} Kg8 {0} 114.
>Rc2 {3.69/6 0} Kh8 {0} 115. Rc3 {3.89/6 0} Kg8 {0} 116. Qf3 {3.68/7 0} Kh8 {0}
>117. Rc1 {3.80/6 0} Kg8 {0} 118. Qe2 {3.29/7 0} Kh8 {0} 119. Qe1 {3.45/6 0} Kg8
>{0} 120. f3 {3.28/8 0} Kh8 {0} 121. Qg3 {3.60/7 0} Kg8 {0} 122. Rd1 {3.48/7 0}
>Kh8 {0} 123. Bf1 {3.67/6 0} Kg8 {0} 124. Rd2 {3.49/7 0} Kh8 {0} 125. Rb2 {
>3.62/6 0} Kg8 {0} 126. Kh2 {3.62/6 0} Kh8 {0} 127. Kg2 {3.61/6 0} Kg8 {0} 128.
>Rc2 {3.44/6 0} Kh8 {0} 129. Rc1 {3.68/6 0} Kg8 {0} 130. Kh1 {3.66/6 0} Kh8 {0}
>131. Rc3 {3.66/5 0} Kg8 {0} 132. Rc2 {3.57/6 0} Kh8 {0} 133. Kh2 {3.63/6 0} Kg8
>{0} 134. Qe1 {3.42/6 0} Kh8 {0} 135. Qf2 {3.54/6 0} Kg8 {0} 136. Rc1 {3.58/5 0}
>Kh8 {0} 137. Qg3 {3.64/6 0} Kg8 {0} 138. Be2 {3.66/5 0} Kh8 {0} 139. Bd3 {
>3.60/6 0} Kg8 {0} 140. Kg1 {3.64/5 0} Kh8 {0} 141. Rc2 {3.78/4 0} Kg8 {0} 142.
>Bf1 {3.63/5 0} Kh8 {0} 143. Qf2 {3.68/5 0} Kg8 {0} 144. Rc3 {3.55/6 0} Kh8 {0}
>145. Rc1 {3.61/5 0} Kg8 {0} 146. Qg3 {3.64/5 0} Kh8 {0} 147. Rc3 {3.72/5 0} Kg8
>{0} 148. Be2 {3.61/5 0} Kh8 {0} 149. Rc2 {3.51/6 0} Kg8 {0} 150. Rc1 {3.52/6 0}
>Kh8 {0} 151. Kh1 {3.72/6 0} Kg8 {0} 152. Bd3 {3.57/6 0} Kh8 {0} 153. Kg2 {
>3.68/6 0} Kg8 {0} 154. Kf1 {3.55/6 0} Kh8 {0} 155. Kf2 {3.57/6 0} Kg8 {0} 156.
>Bf1 {3.62/6 0} Kh8 {0} 157. Bg2 {3.58/7 0} Kg8 {0} 158. Bh1 {3.36/6 0} Kh8 {0}
>159. Kg1 {3.58/5 0} Kg8 {0} 160. Bg2 {3.41/6 0} Kh8 {0} 161. Rd1 {3.56/6 0} Kg8
>{0} 162. Bf1 {3.45/6 0} Kh8 {0} 163. Kh2 {3.69/5 0} Kg8 {0} 164. Ra1 {3.25/8 0}
>Kh8 {0} 165. Ra2 {3.63/5 0} Kg8 {0} 166. Ra4 {3.49/6 0} Kh8 {0} 167. Ra3 {
>3.63/5 0} Kg8 {0} 168. Bd3 {3.49/5 0} Kh8 {0} 169. Rh4 {3.14/5 0} Kg8 {0} 0-1
>
>169 moves in 1+0 game, and black 8 seconds more for the rest! WoW!
>
>How is the trick?
>
>Eduard
1)Even if I know the moves that I want to play only moving the mouse to play 169
moves will take me more than 60 seconds.
I think that the only way to do it is by moving the mouse in the opponent move
to prepare your move and it should be illegal by the fide rules.
You are not allowed to move a piece before the opponent completed his move and
pressed the clock in over the board game and there is no reason to have
different rules in the internet.
2)Here is a game when I punished an opponent who used the premove in playchess(I
have not the game in this computer and it is based on my memory)
Note that I noticed that my opponent used the premove so I expected him to do it
also in move 8 and this was the reason for the move 7...Nxf2.
After I captured his queen he simply resigned.
persoanlly I also use the premove in playchess but I think that the law should
be changed and it should be illegal to do it.
[Event "Edited game"]
[Site "URI-AMD"]
[Date "2005.05.14"]
[Round "-"]
[White "-"]
[Black "-"]
[Result "*"]
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. Nxe5 d6 4. Nf3 Nxe4 5. d4 d5 6. Bd3 Nc6 7. O-O Nxf2
8. c4 Nxd1
*
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