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Subject: Re: Yace vs Aristarch (update: 11000+ games)

Author: pavel

Date: 15:34:37 05/14/05

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On May 14, 2005 at 09:07:28, Uri Blass wrote:

>On May 14, 2005 at 06:17:46, pavel wrote:
>
>>On May 14, 2005 at 02:33:26, Dann Corbit wrote:
>>
>>>On May 13, 2005 at 20:57:53, pavel wrote:
>>>
>>>>5/13/2005 8:49:06 PM :
>>>>
>>>>    Program                      Elo    +   -   Games   Score   Av.Op.  Draws
>>>>
>>>>  1 Aristarch 4.50             : 2508    6   6 11358    52.2 %   2492   25.2 %
>>>>  2 Yace Paderborn             : 2492    6   6 11358    47.8 %   2508   25.2 %
>>>
>>>I would like to get the games, if possible.
>>>
>>>Amazing that the chosen opponents are so closely matched.  Even now, after 11K+
>>>games, it is only just now barely proven that Aristarch is stronger with the
>>>configuration and time control that you chose.
>>>
>>>This is definitely the most precisely that ability has ever been scaled.
>>>Congratulations on a fascinating experiment.
>>>
>>>Is it at the final now, or are you going to run even more games?
>>
>>Thanks Dann.
>>
>>No, it is not final. My primary goal was to reach 10k games, now my goal is to
>>play as long as I don't get bored or I reach 0 error margin. Whichever comes
>>first.
>>
>>The size of the PGN file (stripped off CB game scores and rarred) is about 3mb.
>
>I can only say that it is a bad compression job and it is probably possible to
>compress it to 1 mb.
>
>My calculation is as follow:
>
>1)It is no problem to have average of 6 bits per move(you only need legal move
>generator and remember the number of the move and usually the number of the
>legal moves is less than 64 and to compensate the few cases when the number of
>moves is more than 64 you have a lot of cases when the number of moves is less
>than 32 and you need less than 5 bits for a move.
>
>2)a game has average of less than 133 plies
>3)133*6M<800 bits per game=100 bytes per game
>4)100 bytes per game*11358 games is only slighly more than 1 mbyte.
>
>Uri

Uncompressed was 12,620kb
Best rar compressed was 2,217kb

It was about 3 mb (2.7 something) because I didn't use the "best option" when
compressing.

Cheers,
pavs




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