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Subject: Re: About Movei

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 01:14:51 05/16/05

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On May 16, 2005 at 04:04:26, Klaus Wlotzka wrote:

>On May 15, 2005 at 18:48:55, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On May 15, 2005 at 16:26:40, Klaus Wlotzka wrote:
>>
>>>On May 15, 2005 at 15:48:36, gerold daniels wrote:
>>>
>>>>On May 15, 2005 at 13:07:32, Klaus Wlotzka wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On May 15, 2005 at 12:32:26, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On May 15, 2005 at 11:59:16, Klaus Wlotzka wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On May 15, 2005 at 11:42:09, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On May 15, 2005 at 11:21:21, Klaus Wlotzka wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>If you haven't noticed it yet, Shredder 9 UCI doesn't play only in the
>>>>>>>>>CSS-computer rating list in another league.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>The difference of 100 Elo is relatively surely high. However, this lies well
>>>>>>>>>that "Shredder" likes short time controls.  Furthermore "Shredder" copes with
>>>>>>>>>almost every opening system. Since there play at the CSS-computer rating list
>>>>>>>>>without books but with 10 modified SeE- positions, this yields broader
>>>>>>>>>advantages for "Shredder".
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Klaus Wlotzka
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I think that this test is more interesting for me
>>>>>>>>I am more interested in testing that is done in that way and I hope that they
>>>>>>>>will test next version of Movei.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I do not understand how they choose engines to test(for example I see Jonny2.64
>>>>>>>>that did not aualify and I do not see Jonny2.75).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Uri
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Hello Uri,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>a complete test run with an engine (480 games) lasts for always about 2 weeks.
>>>>>>>It can therefore last sometimes up to a year till it is a new version's turn
>>>>>>>again. So also at Jonny.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I am testing "Spike 0.9a" at the moment, the following tests are planned after
>>>>>>>this:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>a.) Zappa 1.0
>>>>>>>b.) Little Goliath Evolution
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I don't know whether Movei already plays so strongly to qualify for the
>>>>>>>CSS-computer rating list.  I will look at the previous test reports more
>>>>>>>closely.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Klaus
>>>>>>
>>>>>>In that case there is at least a month before testing Movei in case that you
>>>>>>test it after Little Goliath Evolution and I hope to have better Movei at that
>>>>>>time to be strong enough for the list.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Uri
>>>>>
>>>>>Hello Uri,
>>>>>
>>>>>I have looked at the rating list of "Leo Dijksman", "Movei" stands approximately
>>>>>on a level with "Little Goliath" there.  I will parallel test Movei with "Little
>>>>>Goliath". This would be approximately in three weeks. I use a short test for it.
>>>>>The short test works so:
>>>>>
>>>>>To, in future, find possible new candidates faster who shows a sufficient
>>>>>playing strength for the qualification into the CSS-computer rating list new
>>>>>engines will unite short test undergone for the time being. The test candidate
>>>>>plays all 10 opening specification positions against all engines put in the
>>>>>current rating list after the following scheme:
>>>>>
>>>>>a.) opening specification positions 1-3 against the engines of rank 1-8
>>>>>b.) opening specification positions 4-6 against the engines of rank 9-16
>>>>>c.) opening specification positions 7-10 against the engines of rank 17-24
>>>>>
>>>>>After this scheme a test run arises with altogether 168 games. This should reach
>>>>>to a first playing strength assessment.  The candidate reaches a score in the
>>>>>area of the engine put on rank 25 becomes the test continual, otherwise a
>>>>>demolition is carried out.  The results of the candidate are listed at
>>>>>demolition in the "eternal rating list".
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Therefore, if you still publish a more current engine within the next 3 weeks,
>>>>>then I would like to test the newer one of course.
>>>>>
>>>>>You also can send me an e-mail. You find my address here:
>>>>>http://www.wlotzka-computerschach.de/
>>>>>
>>>>>Yours sincerely
>>>>>
>>>>>Klaus
>>>>
>>>>good afternoon Klaus. goliath LGE is a pretty strong engine it will certainly
>>>>be a good test for movei.
>>>>
>>>>gerold.
>>>
>>>Hi Gerold,
>>>
>>>The predecesser engine "Little Goliath revival" couldn't last in the
>>>CSS-computer rating list.  I am curious whether with "Little Goliath evolution"
>>>an increase has been successful. I am curious also at "Movei" whether the
>>>qualification turns out well.
>>>
>>>Klaus
>>
>>I am sure of nothing but I guess that Movei of today is not strong enough to
>>qualify but 50 elo improvement in it are enough to qualify and I am optimistic
>>about improvements.
>>
>>Uri
>
>Hello Uri,
>
>think you it would be better that I still wait a little with the test?
>
>Klaus

Yes

If I understand correctly you plan to test first zappa and Little goliath
evolution.

First results of Little goliath evolution are not good and it has only 1/7 in
http://f22.parsimony.net/forum41668/messages/40032.htm

Uri



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