Author: Jonas Cohonas
Date: 06:21:22 05/17/05
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On May 17, 2005 at 09:08:10, Thomas Mayer wrote: >Hi Jonas, > >> Post some of your wins with standard time control (where the computer gives >> up or get's mated) and let's talk. > >I do not have the games, but I think Pablo has them. He has even beaten Hydra at >60+0... Also on time. And he has done several draws in longer time controls with >his playing system. Yes he beat Hydra on time, i was asking to see his games where he actually beats the programs, not just win on time. >What he shows to us is, that mankind can still find ways to beat the engines, >there are enough backdoors left. They must just be discoverd. I agree. >E.g. look at Kurt Utzingers games. Of course his tactics is not as extreme, but >he also tries to close up the position. And with that he achieves several draws >against almost all strong programs. As far as I know his Elo is also below >2000... > >Now you can make any conclusion out of that you want, but in fact I am pretty >sure that chess engines are not yet as strong as one thinks. The only problem >why they look so strong against humans is, that especially the strongest players >have not tried yet systems like Kurt or Pablo use. Quit possible that they do >not like that style. This might change when it gets financially interesting for >them, so far they earn there money in games against humans and not against >computers. > >Greets, Thomas I am mostly cheering for the human in man v machine scenario's, except when Junior plays :) So i am not against different systems, i just think it is a waste of time to get wound up over someone who can make the comp lose on time.
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