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Subject: Re: Winning against a CCP in Playchess at 3 min. is NO joke

Author: Kurt Utzinger

Date: 11:22:16 05/17/05

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On May 17, 2005 at 09:08:10, Thomas Mayer wrote:

>Hi Jonas,
>
>> Post some of your wins with standard time control (where the computer gives
>> up or get's mated) and let's talk.
>
>I do not have the games, but I think Pablo has them. He has even beaten Hydra at
>60+0... Also on time. And he has done several draws in longer time controls with
>his playing system.
>
>What he shows to us is, that mankind can still find ways to beat the engines,
>there are enough backdoors left. They must just be discoverd.
>
>E.g. look at Kurt Utzingers games. Of course his tactics is not as extreme, but
>he also tries to close up the position. And with that he achieves several draws
>against almost all strong programs. As far as I know his Elo is also below
>2000...

     Hello Thomas
     Yes, my Elo is below 2000, now 1950 Elo and despite
     this it is (was) often possible to get draw vs the top engines.
     I do however not play anti-computer-chess or do not try to get
     closed positions by all means. My strategy is (was) to play a
     very boring style, not to allow unbalanced positions, always
     exchange pieces or in other words: a "do-nothing-but-do-it-well-
     strategy". I have stopped this behaviour because this method
     had a bad influence on my chess in so far as I "forgot" how to
     win a game even against weaker players who at once were able
     to draw against me -:(
     Kind regards
     Kurt


>
>Now you can make any conclusion out of that you want, but in fact I am pretty
>sure that chess engines are not yet as strong as one thinks. The only problem
>why they look so strong against humans is, that especially the strongest players
>have not tried yet systems like Kurt or Pablo use. Quit possible that they do
>not like that style. This might change when it gets financially interesting for
>them, so far they earn there money in games against humans and not against
>computers.
>
>Greets, Thomas

      Fully agreed -:)
      Kurt



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