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Subject: Re: Have You Nothing Better to do Than Throw Insults?

Author: chandler yergin

Date: 00:13:00 05/21/05

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On May 20, 2005 at 20:42:14, Terry McCracken wrote:

>On May 20, 2005 at 19:50:00, chandler yergin wrote:
>
>>On May 20, 2005 at 18:42:57, Daniel Pineo wrote:
>>
>>>On May 20, 2005 at 03:45:37, Terry McCracken wrote:
>>>
>>>>On May 20, 2005 at 03:21:34, jefkaan wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On May 19, 2005 at 14:01:43, Terry McCracken wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>He certainly knows something of opening theory. He's a little passed 1.e4:o)
>>>>>>
>>>>>that's fine in a anti-computer style.
>>>>>but fundamentally 1.e4 is the best.
>>>>>it might be a solution of chess.
>>>>>but we wont know this of course until
>>>>>the year 3000 or so(*)
>>>>>best regards
>>>>>jef
>>>>>(*)yes chess also might be a draw; we don't know yet
>>>>
>>>>I do...it's a draw, and the proof is all around you in the chess world.
>>
>>Yes Terry, again assertions, no Proof.
>>How little you know.
>>Proving once again.. you don't know!
>>The 'evidence' is against your position!
>>The facts are against your position!
>>
>>Based on 1,114,334 Games
>>1-0   413,652 games  = 34%
>>
>>1/2 1/2 381,463 games or 35%
>>
>>0-1 318,393 Games  or 28%
>>
>>You have NO argument or point!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>And what might that proof be?
>
>I gave antidotal evidence, ie, one pawn up is 99% of the time a draw, there is
>statistical evidence that chess is a draw...number wins losses and draws...etc.
>
>No way in hell can the first half move win...it's value falls with every
>consective move played thereafter, barring any errors.
>
>Tell me Chan, do you know any GM's that would say chess isn't a draw?

Yes, probably most of them.
As long as there is the human element, a battle of wills and ideas, the game
will continue to be Wins, Losses & Draws. Three possible outcomes, the
Percentages are yet to be determined.

>Besides, you beleive it to be a draw so what's your damn problem?!

No, I don't believe it can be proven now or ever.
The player that moves first has an advantage.
Whether this initiative can be nullified with perfect play can not be
determined. Nor can perfect play ever be determined.
You can speculate that with 'perfect' play on both sides it should be.
That does not make it so. This is not Tic tac toe.
We can only list the millions of game that have been played since Chess
was invented as a game, & review the results.
We have done that.




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