Author: Rex
Date: 04:49:26 05/21/05
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On May 21, 2005 at 06:35:20, Eduard Nemeth wrote: >English (with translator): > >Hello forum guests! > >I must ask myself completely honestly (after I am in the CCC forum now 5 years) >whether some people are here still normal? > >I do not bring anything as games of chess, and I find her well even! > >And then one is attacked as by wild animals, one already said here to me that I >takes back moves and so on. What for fantasies must one have over on such idea >at all to come? :( > >Some obviously do not bear that if it one weaknesses of programs shows, her is >are fanatic, search excuses etc.... > >I have yesterday for example live seen like Pablo Restprepo a beautiful DRAW >against a strong Shredder 9 on timecontrol 5+3 - and I legend: so which only >the few GMs create, if at all. > >Why doesn't one honor such achievements here? > >To know well! > >Therefore I will withdraw myself to a large extent here from the forum, and only >from time to time times only if necessarily write something in the future. > >You can praise however your programs further and praise so long you want, but >without me so! > >Bye. >Eduard > >Original german: > >Hallo Forumsgäste! > >Ich muss mich ganz ehrlich fragen (nachdem ich im CCC Forum nun 5 Jahre bin), ob >einige Leute hier noch normal sind? > >Ich bringe nichts als Schachpartien, und ich finde sie gut sogar! > >Und dann wird man wie von wilden Tieren hier überfallen, man sagte mir schon >dass ich Züge zurücknehme und so weiter. Was für Phantasien muss man haben um >auf solche Idee überhaupt zu kommen? > >Einige verkraften das offenbar nicht wenn es man Schwächen von Programmen zeigt, >sie sind sind fanatisch, suchen Ausreden etc... > >Ich habe gestern zum Beispiel live gesehen wie Pablo Restprepo ein schönes Remis >gegen einen starken Shredder 9 bei 5+3 geholt hat – und ich sage: so was >schaffen nur die wenigsten GMs, wenn überhaupt. > >Warum honoriert man nicht solche Leistungen hier? > >Gut das zu wissen! > >Daher werde ich mich hier aus dem Forum weitgehend zurückziehen, und nur noch ab >und zu mal nur wenn nötig etwas schreiben in Zukunft. > >Ihr könnt aber eure Programme weiter preisen und loben solange ihr wollt, aber >ohne mich so! > >Bye. >Eduard Look, I have played against more GM's with my computer program than probably 98% of the people on here. Thousands and thousands of games have been played on ICC against GM's and can tell you what I have learned. You CANT just grab a chess program and expect it to win against a human. Notice I said human and not just a GM. Programs STINK when it comes to playing humans. I have used both commercial and amateur programs and have achieved well over 3400 on ICC using the programs versis humans. Pablo, father, has never drew against me, nor beat me. Its no secret how to play against humans once you figure it out. It took me years of understanding how humans think and play, and now can take ANY resonable engine that plays chess, adjust the playing style, and bingo another 3400 engine. One thing is clear. Once an engine is set up to play humans, it will hardly win against a computer!!! Detuning the engine down to a certain playing style is the secret. If I were a human playing a computer. Small moves with pawns. Single, repeating moves with other pieces, and a nice wall defense to go with it. It takes work as a human to understand the playing style. But once one figures out the style, the computer program is junk, unless you know how to set it up-:)
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