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Subject: Re: Dear forum guests - I am going

Author: gerold daniels

Date: 05:42:03 05/21/05

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On May 21, 2005 at 07:49:26, Rex wrote:

>On May 21, 2005 at 06:35:20, Eduard Nemeth wrote:
>
>>English (with translator):
>>
>>Hello forum guests!
>>
>>I must ask myself completely honestly (after I am in the CCC forum now 5 years)
>>whether some people are here still normal?
>>
>>I do not bring anything as games of chess, and I find her well even!
>>
>>And then one is attacked as by wild animals, one already said here to me that I
>>takes back moves  and so on.  What for fantasies must one have over on such idea
>>at all to come?  :(
>>
>>Some obviously do not bear that if it one weaknesses of programs shows, her is
>>are fanatic, search excuses etc....
>>
>>I have yesterday for example live seen like Pablo Restprepo a beautiful DRAW
>>against a strong Shredder 9 on timecontrol 5+3 - and I legend:  so which only
>>the few GMs create, if at all.
>>
>>Why doesn't one honor such achievements here?
>>
>>To know well!
>>
>>Therefore I will withdraw myself to a large extent here from the forum, and only
>>from time to time times only if necessarily write something in the future.
>>
>>You can praise however your programs further and praise so long you want, but
>>without me so!
>>
>>Bye.
>>Eduard
>>
>>Original german:
>>
>>Hallo Forumsgäste!
>>
>>Ich muss mich ganz ehrlich fragen (nachdem ich im CCC Forum nun 5 Jahre bin), ob
>>einige Leute hier noch normal sind?
>>
>>Ich bringe nichts als Schachpartien, und ich finde sie gut sogar!
>>
>>Und dann wird man wie von wilden Tieren hier überfallen, man sagte mir schon
>>dass ich Züge zurücknehme und so weiter. Was für Phantasien muss man haben um
>>auf solche Idee überhaupt zu kommen?
>>
>>Einige verkraften das offenbar nicht wenn es man Schwächen von Programmen zeigt,
>>sie sind sind fanatisch, suchen Ausreden etc...
>>
>>Ich habe gestern zum Beispiel live gesehen wie Pablo Restprepo ein schönes Remis
>>gegen einen starken Shredder 9 bei 5+3 geholt hat – und ich sage: so was
>>schaffen nur die wenigsten GMs, wenn überhaupt.
>>
>>Warum honoriert man nicht solche Leistungen hier?
>>
>>Gut das zu wissen!
>>
>>Daher werde ich mich hier aus dem Forum weitgehend zurückziehen, und nur noch ab
>>und zu mal nur wenn nötig etwas schreiben in Zukunft.
>>
>>Ihr könnt aber eure Programme weiter preisen und loben solange ihr wollt, aber
>>ohne mich so!
>>
>>Bye.
>>Eduard
>
>
>Look,
>
>I have played against more GM's with my computer program than probably 98% of
>the people on here.  Thousands and thousands of games have been played on ICC
>against GM's and can tell you what I have learned.
>
>You CANT just grab a chess program and expect it to win against a human.  Notice
>I said human and not just a GM.  Programs STINK when it comes to playing humans.
> I have used both commercial and amateur programs and have achieved well over
>3400 on ICC using the programs versis humans.
>
>Pablo, father, has never drew against me, nor beat me.  Its no secret how to
>play against humans once you figure it out.  It took me years of understanding
>how humans think and play, and now can take ANY resonable engine that plays
>chess, adjust the playing style, and bingo another 3400 engine.
>
>One thing is clear.  Once an engine is set up to play humans, it will hardly win
>against a computer!!!  Detuning the engine down to a certain playing style is
>the secret.
>
>If I were a human playing a computer.  Small moves with pawns.  Single,
>repeating moves with other pieces, and a nice wall defense to go with it.  It
>takes work as a human to understand the playing style.  But once one figures out
>the style, the computer program is junk, unless you know how to set it up-:)

how do you set it up. could you post some of your games. thanks in advance.

gerold.



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