Author: gerold daniels
Date: 05:42:03 05/21/05
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On May 21, 2005 at 07:49:26, Rex wrote: >On May 21, 2005 at 06:35:20, Eduard Nemeth wrote: > >>English (with translator): >> >>Hello forum guests! >> >>I must ask myself completely honestly (after I am in the CCC forum now 5 years) >>whether some people are here still normal? >> >>I do not bring anything as games of chess, and I find her well even! >> >>And then one is attacked as by wild animals, one already said here to me that I >>takes back moves and so on. What for fantasies must one have over on such idea >>at all to come? :( >> >>Some obviously do not bear that if it one weaknesses of programs shows, her is >>are fanatic, search excuses etc.... >> >>I have yesterday for example live seen like Pablo Restprepo a beautiful DRAW >>against a strong Shredder 9 on timecontrol 5+3 - and I legend: so which only >>the few GMs create, if at all. >> >>Why doesn't one honor such achievements here? >> >>To know well! >> >>Therefore I will withdraw myself to a large extent here from the forum, and only >>from time to time times only if necessarily write something in the future. >> >>You can praise however your programs further and praise so long you want, but >>without me so! >> >>Bye. >>Eduard >> >>Original german: >> >>Hallo Forumsgäste! >> >>Ich muss mich ganz ehrlich fragen (nachdem ich im CCC Forum nun 5 Jahre bin), ob >>einige Leute hier noch normal sind? >> >>Ich bringe nichts als Schachpartien, und ich finde sie gut sogar! >> >>Und dann wird man wie von wilden Tieren hier überfallen, man sagte mir schon >>dass ich Züge zurücknehme und so weiter. Was für Phantasien muss man haben um >>auf solche Idee überhaupt zu kommen? >> >>Einige verkraften das offenbar nicht wenn es man Schwächen von Programmen zeigt, >>sie sind sind fanatisch, suchen Ausreden etc... >> >>Ich habe gestern zum Beispiel live gesehen wie Pablo Restprepo ein schönes Remis >>gegen einen starken Shredder 9 bei 5+3 geholt hat – und ich sage: so was >>schaffen nur die wenigsten GMs, wenn überhaupt. >> >>Warum honoriert man nicht solche Leistungen hier? >> >>Gut das zu wissen! >> >>Daher werde ich mich hier aus dem Forum weitgehend zurückziehen, und nur noch ab >>und zu mal nur wenn nötig etwas schreiben in Zukunft. >> >>Ihr könnt aber eure Programme weiter preisen und loben solange ihr wollt, aber >>ohne mich so! >> >>Bye. >>Eduard > > >Look, > >I have played against more GM's with my computer program than probably 98% of >the people on here. Thousands and thousands of games have been played on ICC >against GM's and can tell you what I have learned. > >You CANT just grab a chess program and expect it to win against a human. Notice >I said human and not just a GM. Programs STINK when it comes to playing humans. > I have used both commercial and amateur programs and have achieved well over >3400 on ICC using the programs versis humans. > >Pablo, father, has never drew against me, nor beat me. Its no secret how to >play against humans once you figure it out. It took me years of understanding >how humans think and play, and now can take ANY resonable engine that plays >chess, adjust the playing style, and bingo another 3400 engine. > >One thing is clear. Once an engine is set up to play humans, it will hardly win >against a computer!!! Detuning the engine down to a certain playing style is >the secret. > >If I were a human playing a computer. Small moves with pawns. Single, >repeating moves with other pieces, and a nice wall defense to go with it. It >takes work as a human to understand the playing style. But once one figures out >the style, the computer program is junk, unless you know how to set it up-:) how do you set it up. could you post some of your games. thanks in advance. gerold.
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