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Subject: Re: [long] Some Statistics from Pavel's Yace Paderborn vs. Aristrach 4.5

Author: pavel

Date: 17:36:03 05/21/05

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On May 21, 2005 at 17:44:23, pavel wrote:

>Hey Dieter,
>
>Thanks for running those very interesting stats.
>
>Some info to clear out some confusions:
>
>* Yace is playing as a UCI engine under ChessbaseGUI using it's own book, I
>don't know how Yace's learning function works as a UCI engine under CB GUI.
>
>* I don't know if Yace used it's book learning in the first 1000 games, but I do
>remember that at some point I added this line: "min_learn_tc 60"  in Yace.ini
>which you can see here: http://www.pavs.org/yace.ini .
>
>* When I run Yace under Chessbase these are the default value:
>http://www.pavs.org/yace.jpg , which I never changed throughout the games.
>You will see that Yace has book learning but it's book is set as random.
>
>* Yace played more games as white than as black because this is how my
>engine_engine match is setup under Chessbase GUI: http://www.pavs.org/yace2.jpg
>So everytime I stopped the games after yace as white, and next game I start
>would also play Yace as white. At first I didn't care much, but now everytime I
>stop games I make sure that Yace doesn't get more priority as white. However as
>you mentioned the games are very few to make any differance and you can always
>delete them while making stats.
>
>IMO Yace learning is clearly helping here. If you just consider the last 2-3-4
>thousands games you will probably see that Yace performance was superior.
>
>The question is does this learning actually help yace when playing longer time
>control? ie, 15min/side?
>
>Here are some more up-to-date stats:
>
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>5/21/2005 5:23:14 PM :
>
>    Program                      Elo    +   -   Games   Score   Av.Op.  Draws
>
>  1 Aristarch 4.50             : 2503    5   5 14447    50.9 %   2497   25.4 %
>  2 Yace Paderborn             : 2497    5   5 14447    49.1 %   2503   25.4 %
>
>
>Individual statistics:
>
>1 Aristarch 4.50            : 2503  14447 (+5517,=3663,-5267), 50.9 %
>
>Yace Paderborn                : 14447 (+5517,=3663,-5267), 50.9 %
>
>2 Yace Paderborn            : 2497  14447 (+5267,=3663,-5517), 49.1 %
>
>Aristarch 4.50                : 14447 (+5267,=3663,-5517), 49.1 %
>
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Current PGN: (14447 games) http://www.pavs.org/yace_aristarch_20050521.rar
>Opening Stat: http://www.pavs.org/20050521_opening_stats.txt
>
>
>Cheers,
>pavs

I just double checked and Aristarch book learning was off by default.
All these games aristarch played with book learning off. Yace book learning was
on but it was in "random" mode. Aristarch don't have any kind of "ini" files to
setup it's options. The only way to setup the book learning (under CB GUI) is to
load it up and edit it's properties. My mistake was that I assumed Aristarch
book learning was on by default, it wasn't. :(

I am not going to change it now.

pavs



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