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Subject: Re: New York 1924

Author: John Merlino

Date: 23:40:51 05/21/05

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On May 21, 2005 at 21:30:37, Mark Ryan wrote:

>On May 20, 2005 at 21:11:03, John Merlino wrote:
>
>>On May 20, 2005 at 19:12:00, Mark Ryan wrote:
>>
>>>On May 20, 2005 at 17:40:02, jim r uselton wrote:
>>>
>>>>Let's say a person has access to a time machine and grabs his shredder 7 and
>>>>goes back to the year 1924. Let's say,For the sake of argument, he talks his way
>>>>in to the great New York Tournament. This guy doesn't know much chess so he lets
>>>>his Shredder do all the playing. My question is---where do you think he would
>>>>finish, first---fourth---last?
>>>>
>>>>Thanks for your input!
>>>>     Jim
>>>
>>>I think Shredder 7 would win the tournament.  However, I have always thought
>>>that Emanuel Lasker would have a good chance against even a strong computer
>>>program because:
>>>
>>>1.  Capablanca once described Lasker as the best tactician;
>>>2.  Lasker almost never blundered;
>>>3.  Lasker had superb control of his nerves;
>>>4.  Lasker was a great defensive player;
>>>
>>>All of the above qualities go a long way to neutralizing the computer's
>>>advantages against human beings.  Moreover, to exploit the computer's weakness:
>>>
>>>5.  Lasker had a profound ability to make moves that other players
>>>mis-evaluated.  I believe it is a misconception that Lasker deliberately played
>>>weak moves that he knew would trouble his particular opponent.  I don't think
>>>Lasker deliberately played a weak move in his whole life.  He played moves that
>>>he knew were good, but that his opponent would mistakenly imagine were bad.  The
>>>classic example is 12.f5 against Capablanca in 1914 (St. Petersburg), which the
>>>great Cuban insisted for years afterwards was a weak move, but which is now
>>>generally accepted as being a good move.
>>>
>>>I think Lasker, more than any other player, would have some chance of finding
>>>such a move against a program.  (But I think we should let him play a full match
>>>against the computer, and not just one game :)
>>>
>>>Mark
>>
>>FYI, here are the Lasker personality settings in CM 9000 (my apologies if people
>>expect a different format for this, I'm just typing them as I see them).
>>
>>All settings are default except:
>>Attacker/Defender = 30
>>Material/Positional = -25
>>Contempt for Draw = 1.0
>>Control of Center = 105
>>King Safety = 90
>>Passed Pawns = 110
>>Queen Value = 8.7
>>Knight Value = 3.3
>>
>>Playing style description: Of all the Chessmaster 9000 opponents, the
>>Lasker-style will more often play the opponent as much or more than the board.
>>This personality is a fabulous defensive player and fine tactician, equally at
>>home in open or closed positions.
>>
>>Enjoy!
>>
>>jm
>
>I think we could add "ruthless" to the list.  I just played Chessmaster 9000
>Lasker, and he forced to me resign in 16 moves.  :)
>
>Mark

Well, I just played the Lasker personality, and after 19 moves found myself in
this very unenviable position:

[D]5rk1/ppp2rb1/3pp1n1/7q/3nPB2/P1NP2R1/1PPQ1RPP/6K1 w - - 0 20

I resigned three moves later.... :-)

jm



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