Author: chandler yergin
Date: 10:15:38 05/22/05
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On May 22, 2005 at 12:36:23, Henrik Dinesen wrote: >On May 22, 2005 at 11:47:59, chandler yergin wrote: > >>On May 22, 2005 at 10:37:26, Komputer Korner wrote: >> >>>On May 22, 2005 at 03:54:58, chandler yergin wrote: >>> >>>>On May 21, 2005 at 22:09:01, Komputer Korner wrote: >>>> >>>>>On May 21, 2005 at 20:17:17, chandler yergin wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>You can include variations i.e. analysis that is included in games you input, >>>>>>but these are not included in the statistical analysis. >>>>>>Transpositions are handled perfectly, and even reverse color openings. >>>>>>Try 1.c3 e5 2.c4 the Program will follow the Sicilian with White. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>You don't have to include whole games to the tree. It was designed to add >>>>>individual moves to the tree or a partial line of moves which is the same as >>>>>adding individual moves to an opening book. >>>> >>>>Yes when adding games, truncate them to usually 20 moves beyond the ECO >>>>Classification. >>>> >>>> The statistics were included by >>>>>Chessbase from games they imported and then pruned off most of the tree so that >>>>>just the opening was left. You can also do the same thing by adding games or >>>>>even just add statistics without adding the games. >>>> >>>>Statistics are compiled from Database searches of games played. >>>>You cannot 'add' statistics. >>>> >>>>Either way, your choice, but >>>>>my original post stands. There are bugs in the tree. >>>> >>>>No there are not. I suggest it's 'Operator Error'. >>> >>> >>>Please look at the Chessbase Help on trees. It plainly states that you can add >>>statistics to the tree based on an external database and you don't actually have >>>to add the game lines to the tree. >> >>Please Post exactly what it states; we can be the judge of what it means. >> >> The submenu is >>>Edit/OpeningsBook/LearnFromDatabase >>> >>>However that was not the focus of my original post. My original post clearly >>>stated that sometimes when adding a move to the tree, the tree will add bogus >>>statistics to the move even if no retro move shows from a possible >>>transposition. I have the retro moves feature turned on. >> >>Yes, and unless you have 'removed' the write protection; you have NOT added >>a move to the Tree. You have entered it on the board, that's all. >>This is probably why you think there is a Bug. >>Next.. >>You are asserting again, things not in evidence. >>You cannot 'add' bogus statistics; statistics are calculated, from >>positions in the Tree. >>(what kind of juice have you been nippin on?) >> >>Statistics: >>If you switch on this display option the exact statistical details of >>each move will be displayed at the bottom of the list. >>For any 'highlighted' move, the Program displays at the bottom, the >>exact number of games that were won, drawn or lost. >>The Bar Graphics make it easy to take in the information at a glance. > > >When you refer to "write protection", I don't suspect that you mean the general >write protection from the files, but that your're refering to "allow move >adding" - inside the GUI!?? No, if you have Chessbase, and the Chessbase 7 Manual, look at the Section "Browsing the Tree"... you'll see what I mean. Shhhh don't tell KK though, his mind is made up, don't confuse him with Facts. ;) > >In normal terms write protection deals with the files themself. >"Alow move adding" is just a Chessbase precaution against accidentially manual >adding of a move. >Write protection itself is disabled when the book is imported to the harddisk - >same as with the database. > >And, BTW, of course the stats isn't changed when you add a move - or a serie of >moves - manually og import "games" _without_ results. Number of games(N) and the >percentages(%) are only influenced by results. >In both cases they are treated as variantions/single moves (but when adding >moves manually, those are set as 'main moves' by default, which isn't the case >if you use the 'Import games' feature). > >Regards, >Henrik
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