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Subject: Re: ChessBase tree feature is definitely bugged More nonsense

Author: chandler yergin

Date: 12:18:25 05/22/05

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On May 22, 2005 at 13:52:13, Komputer Korner wrote:

>On May 22, 2005 at 11:25:33, chandler yergin wrote:
>
>>On May 22, 2005 at 10:27:11, Komputer Korner wrote:
>>
>>>On May 22, 2005 at 04:57:37, chandler yergin wrote:
>>>
>>>>On May 21, 2005 at 21:58:29, Komputer Korner wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On May 21, 2005 at 20:09:18, chandler yergin wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On May 21, 2005 at 17:44:05, Komputer Korner wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Even though I like the ChessBase tree immensely and it was from my idea that
>>>>>>>convinced Matthius Wullenweber to implement the concept in the Chessbase
>>>>>>>interface and database, from the first day it came out, there were problems. As
>>>>>>>it stands now you can add a move to tree and sometimes it will then give you
>>>>>>>move statistics as if there was already  a game with that move even though if
>>>>>>>you go back one ply, there is no unplayed transposition shown. I have the option
>>>>>>>checked to show unplayed transpositions. I have also noticed bogus statistics
>>>>>>>against certain nodes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>If you add a move or a variation, you have changed the Tree.
>>>>>>It does affect the statistics.
>>>>>>This is not a Bug! The Program is doing what it's supposed to.
>>>>>
>>>>>I have put up with your accusations and ignorance long enough. This last post
>>>>>completely demonstrates your novice knowledge about computer chess and the
>>>>>Chessbase opening tree in specific terms. The statistics are based on results.
>>>>>Simple enough. Adding a move is not adding a result.
>>>>
>>>>You can add a move on the board.
>>>>Before you can add it to the Tree, you must remove the 'write protection'.
>>>>By Default, a Tree is write protected.
>>>>Didn't know that did you?
>>>>As I said before.. "Operator Error!"
>>>>The Program works just fine.
>>>>Oh, BTW since you are so rude, I'll let you figure out how to remove the
>>>>write protection.
>>>>;)
>>>>The readers can decide who is laughable here.
>>>>
>>>> Your response is laughable.
>>>>> I would base your age at around 16 based on many of your posts. Before you make
>>>>> a fool of yourself any farther, I would suggest you read a lot more on computer
>>>>>chess.
>>>
>>>
>>>The tree files don't have write protection on them.
>>
>>Of course they do! As I said:
>>"You can add a move on the board.
>>Before you can add it to the Tree, you must remove the 'write protection'.
>>By Default, a Tree is write protected."
>>
>>ASK CHESSBASE!
>>Stop your nonsense Posts!
>>
>>>If they did how would a move
>>>ever get added?
>>
>>Chessbase has a way for the user to 'remove' the write protection;
>>add moves, and restore the write protection.
>> (but I'm not going to tell you how)
>>
>>
>>
>>>I am talking about bogus statistics being added to the tree.
>>
>>When you Open the Tree, for any position on the board, it shows which
>>moves have been played, how many games, the percentage of success, the
>>average Elo of the players, and the Elo performance each more achieved.
>>
>>How do you "add" bogus statistics to the tree?
>>Hmmm?
>>Nonsense!
>>
>>>Have you been drinking again? In another post, you said that you mixed up the
>>>meaning between ply and move(You didn't know the difference) because you said
>>>that you had been drinking 8 beers.
>>
>>I also left out the smiley.
>>Missed the next Post correcting that didn't you?
>>I said, even 'after' 8 beers I understood it.
>>
>> Well if that is the case here, please sober
>>>up before responding.
>>
>>You should confirm the facts before slandering a Program or a person.
>>You have Posted many errors.
>
>
>I am right mouse clicking the ADD move feature for the tree. If you don't do
>that then you can't add moves to the tree. So what in the hell are you talking
>about? What I said was that sometimes if you add a move, then the next screen in
>the tree window will show bogus move statistics. That is all I said.

Then 'think' about what you said.
There are NO 'bogus' statistics.
Statistics are calculated from the games in the database.
A Move does NOT affect the Statistics!
A move is added into the game Classification of  the ECO Opening Keys.
This is not rocket Science..
Review 'Advanced Tree Functions'.



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