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Subject: Re: Time for a new nomenclature: the !!! move

Author: Soren Riis

Date: 11:32:07 02/09/99

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On February 09, 1999 at 12:06:40, Dann Corbit wrote:

>On February 09, 1999 at 11:46:33, Soren Riis wrote:
>>I am VERY confused. The idea of introducing "!!!" for moves say completely
>>outside the range of grandmasters grasp of the game seems interesting - but what
>>on earth has this to do with the "baby" problems you suggest. Even a mediocre
>>chess player see that Re8 is the easiest win in the first position. Black is
>>dead lost and white can actually win by other moves than Re8. In the second
>>position Rf6+ is almost trivial and it is hard to imagine any woodpusher who
>>would not make that move. Even someone who got his/her first chess set this
>>christmas should by now have no problems in finding Rf6+. And clearly Kh2 also
>>wins... The third problem is a clear draw so I do not understand you suggestion
>>about something might be hidden down the line. Could you be more specific?
>Look at the original problems.  Each suggests a move.  Each suggested move leads
>directly to the person making the 'best move' getting mated anyway.  How good is
>that 'best move'?  Not terribly great.  If the positions are really that
>obvious, then it is a terrible bug in the epd test suite.
>
>The updated positions I showed were *after* the supposedly best move was made.
>The 'best move' did not help one iota.  Therefore, either the book was horribly
>wrong (or the position was transcribed incorrectly) or there is an even better
>response to a best move.

Position 3 is (as Bruce pointed out) won for white. I claimed (mistakingly) that
it was an obvious draw. When I actually set up the position on a chess board I
realized that it was a neat study and my claim had been to hasty. I am still
confused why this problem is supposed to be particular difficult for the
grandmaster. I am not a grandmaster, but the moves in the study are not to hard
to understand. I do not see any move (in any of the problems) which deserves
more than one "!". To deserve three exclamation marks a move must be something
truely deep. Perhaps some of you have some candidates for such moves.

Soren Riis





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