Author: Soren Riis
Date: 11:32:07 02/09/99
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On February 09, 1999 at 12:06:40, Dann Corbit wrote: >On February 09, 1999 at 11:46:33, Soren Riis wrote: >>I am VERY confused. The idea of introducing "!!!" for moves say completely >>outside the range of grandmasters grasp of the game seems interesting - but what >>on earth has this to do with the "baby" problems you suggest. Even a mediocre >>chess player see that Re8 is the easiest win in the first position. Black is >>dead lost and white can actually win by other moves than Re8. In the second >>position Rf6+ is almost trivial and it is hard to imagine any woodpusher who >>would not make that move. Even someone who got his/her first chess set this >>christmas should by now have no problems in finding Rf6+. And clearly Kh2 also >>wins... The third problem is a clear draw so I do not understand you suggestion >>about something might be hidden down the line. Could you be more specific? >Look at the original problems. Each suggests a move. Each suggested move leads >directly to the person making the 'best move' getting mated anyway. How good is >that 'best move'? Not terribly great. If the positions are really that >obvious, then it is a terrible bug in the epd test suite. > >The updated positions I showed were *after* the supposedly best move was made. >The 'best move' did not help one iota. Therefore, either the book was horribly >wrong (or the position was transcribed incorrectly) or there is an even better >response to a best move. Position 3 is (as Bruce pointed out) won for white. I claimed (mistakingly) that it was an obvious draw. When I actually set up the position on a chess board I realized that it was a neat study and my claim had been to hasty. I am still confused why this problem is supposed to be particular difficult for the grandmaster. I am not a grandmaster, but the moves in the study are not to hard to understand. I do not see any move (in any of the problems) which deserves more than one "!". To deserve three exclamation marks a move must be something truely deep. Perhaps some of you have some candidates for such moves. Soren Riis
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