Author: Torstein Hall
Date: 14:56:18 05/23/05
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On May 23, 2005 at 07:54:28, Uri Blass wrote: >On May 23, 2005 at 07:29:21, Uri Blass wrote: > >>On May 23, 2005 at 05:39:00, Darrel Briley wrote: >> >>>On May 23, 2005 at 05:13:04, Uri Blass wrote: >>> >>>>On May 23, 2005 at 00:08:52, Darrel Briley wrote: >>>> >>>>>On May 22, 2005 at 19:28:53, Eduard Nemeth wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On May 22, 2005 at 18:53:07, Pablo Ignacio Restrepo wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>I am thinking chess is in a coin. >>>>>>>Human beings for ever playing in one face. >>>>>>>Now I am playing in the other face:"Antichess". >>>>>>>Computers are as a fortres where owner forgot to clouse a little door behind. >>>>>>>You must enter across this doar. Forget the front. >>>>>> >>>>>>Congrats Pablo! This was an nice game, but last after 15 losing games. >>>>>> >>>>>>You losing 1 : 16 against Hiarcs 9. I seems Hiarcs 9 is very strong against >>>>>>Anti-Chess. >>>>>> >>>>>>Or? >>>>>> >>>>>>Ed:) >>>>> >>>>>I assume the reason you see such things on Playchess.com and not ICC is due to >>>>>ICC's rules prohibiting playing the same line(s) repeatedly against an engine >>>>>until you FINALLLLLY get a win. >>>> >>>>I do not know about a rule in ICC that prohibit playing the same lines >>>>repeatedly against an engine. >>>> >>>>Uri >>> >>>http://www.chessclub.com/help/abuse >>> >>>7. Playing the same line over and over against a computer, to gain rating >>>points. We will edit your rating to whatever we feel is reasonable if you do >>>this. >>> >>>Accounts that abuse, distort, or cheat the rating system on ICC may have the >>>ratings adjusted, may be added to the "disconnectors" list (causing immediate >>>loss upon disconnection), may be prevented from playing rated games, or may lose >>>their ICC account entirely. These actions will be taken at the sole discretion >>>of the ICC administrators. >> >>Thanks >> >>This rule is talking only about trying to get rating >> >>People are still allowed to play the same line over and over in friendly games >>against computers. >> >>I also think that the rule is not fair. >> >>It means that playing the same line over and over against an human to gain >>rating points is allowed and playing against convenient human opponent is also a >>trick to get rating points. >> >>If the target is to do the rating fair then it is better to forbid people to >>play for rating except playing in open swiss tournaments when you cannot choose >>your opponent. >> >>Uri > >I can add that the rule is also against programmers. > >Suppose that a programmer implemented some new learning function in order to >prevent humans to earn rating by repeating the same line again and again. > >How can the programmer check if the learning works when humans are not allowed >to try repeating the same line again and again. > >Uri I am not sure, but I believe you misunderstand the reason behind this rule. The idea is to stop playing obvious programs that are malfunctioning. I have encountered programs that have stopped moving when it get out of book etc. I could have earned quite a lot of rating at ICC that way.... Torstein
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