Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 18:16:26 05/23/05
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On May 23, 2005 at 11:24:03, Matthew Hull wrote: >On May 23, 2005 at 11:18:36, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>On May 23, 2005 at 11:07:32, Matthew Hull wrote: >> >>> >>> >>>Well done. I did look at a few of the games myself and came to a similar >>>conclusion. Pablo's trick would not work so well at long time controls, I >>>think. He certainly could not do it "on demand" such as in a six-game showdown >>>at 120 0. But even though it's a lame trick, it should be allowed and >>>programmers are responsible to fight against tricks. >>> >>>I think the ICC rule 7 is wrong-headed. If I were running ICC, I would allow >>>repeating lines against programs. It is the programmer's responsibility to make >>>a better program than to allow itself to be exploited. It is just another >>>program weakness that needs fixing. There is no need to defend program >>>weaknesses with extra rules. I would allow (and even encourage) players to >>>punish such programmer oversights relentlessly. That's how you get better >>>programs. >>> >>>I'd bet money Bob Hyatt agrees with me on this. >>> >>>:) >>> >>> >> >> >>Pretty much. >> >>I've always been a believer in "take control of your own destiny." >> >>I'd be more than willing to have him play crafty in 3 0 games as long as he >>wants. And I'd bet money crafty will _never_ lose a 3 0 game against a human. >>And it won't lose against a computer unless the game is _way_ long, say 500 or >>more moves... >> >>There are really two kinds of people in the world. >> >>1. The kind that complain when something is exploited. >> >>2. The kind that recognize when something is exploited and then fix it so that >>it can't be exploited again. I went thru this in losing to very fast humans (no >>longer possible), repeating bad opening lines (book learning helps but doesn't >>totally solve it but positional learning offers even more help; The "trojan >>horse attack" was killing everyone and producing lots of complaints. I chose to >>prevent the attack. Etc. > > >Speaking of Crafty, where is it? It seems to have gone AWOL on ICC. :) No idea. Looks like a network glitch snapped the connection without telling my end it was closed. I just restarted xboard...
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