Author: Pablo Ignacio Restrepo
Date: 10:16:12 05/24/05
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Dr Robert Hyatt. If in any moment you are interested in playing an engine against me as a humen being, just tell me here in CCC, I will be Welcome to play if God get to me the oportunity, into playchess engines room, or in ICC playing me as a guest. I preffer playchess, I want to be honest.... For ICC is not a nice chess club. I wrote why in my yesterday postes. Best regard, Pablo Restrepo On May 24, 2005 at 10:48:24, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On May 23, 2005 at 23:30:17, Pablo Ignacio Restrepo wrote: > >>Are you Moonbean nickname in ICC? >>That was the game Dr. >>Best regard, >>Pablo. > >No. I run "crafty" and "scrappy" only. The other crafty ICC players are run by >others... > > > > >> >> >> >> >>On May 23, 2005 at 21:16:26, Robert Hyatt wrote: >> >>>On May 23, 2005 at 11:24:03, Matthew Hull wrote: >>> >>>>On May 23, 2005 at 11:18:36, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>>> >>>>>On May 23, 2005 at 11:07:32, Matthew Hull wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>Well done. I did look at a few of the games myself and came to a similar >>>>>>conclusion. Pablo's trick would not work so well at long time controls, I >>>>>>think. He certainly could not do it "on demand" such as in a six-game showdown >>>>>>at 120 0. But even though it's a lame trick, it should be allowed and >>>>>>programmers are responsible to fight against tricks. >>>>>> >>>>>>I think the ICC rule 7 is wrong-headed. If I were running ICC, I would allow >>>>>>repeating lines against programs. It is the programmer's responsibility to make >>>>>>a better program than to allow itself to be exploited. It is just another >>>>>>program weakness that needs fixing. There is no need to defend program >>>>>>weaknesses with extra rules. I would allow (and even encourage) players to >>>>>>punish such programmer oversights relentlessly. That's how you get better >>>>>>programs. >>>>>> >>>>>>I'd bet money Bob Hyatt agrees with me on this. >>>>>> >>>>>>:) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Pretty much. >>>>> >>>>>I've always been a believer in "take control of your own destiny." >>>>> >>>>>I'd be more than willing to have him play crafty in 3 0 games as long as he >>>>>wants. And I'd bet money crafty will _never_ lose a 3 0 game against a human. >>>>>And it won't lose against a computer unless the game is _way_ long, say 500 or >>>>>more moves... >>>>> >>>>>There are really two kinds of people in the world. >>>>> >>>>>1. The kind that complain when something is exploited. >>>>> >>>>>2. The kind that recognize when something is exploited and then fix it so that >>>>>it can't be exploited again. I went thru this in losing to very fast humans (no >>>>>longer possible), repeating bad opening lines (book learning helps but doesn't >>>>>totally solve it but positional learning offers even more help; The "trojan >>>>>horse attack" was killing everyone and producing lots of complaints. I chose to >>>>>prevent the attack. Etc. >>>> >>>> >>>>Speaking of Crafty, where is it? It seems to have gone AWOL on ICC. :) >>> >>> >>>No idea. Looks like a network glitch snapped the connection without telling my >>>end it was closed. I just restarted xboard...
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