Author: Darrel Briley
Date: 20:26:50 05/24/05
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On May 24, 2005 at 22:47:53, Dann Corbit wrote: >On May 24, 2005 at 15:15:15, Darrel Briley wrote: > >>On May 24, 2005 at 10:38:49, Dann Corbit wrote: >> >>>On May 24, 2005 at 08:34:02, Darrel Briley wrote: >>> >>>>On May 24, 2005 at 08:25:38, Darrel Briley wrote: >>>> >>>>>On May 23, 2005 at 14:13:14, Dann Corbit wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On May 21, 2005 at 07:42:00, Peter Berger wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On May 20, 2005 at 20:49:42, Dann Corbit wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Capablanca was clearly the strongest of the group. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Pardon? It's hard to remember a top tournament in history that was more clearly >>>>>>>dominated by a player than New York 1924 by Lasker. >>>>>> >>>>>>You're right. And from 1924-1927, Lasker may have been the stronger: >>>>>>http://www.chessmetrics.com/CM2/MonthlyLists.asp?Params=191030SSSSS3S000000000000111000000000000010100 >>>>> >>>>>I found 5 games played between 1924-1927. In 1924 Capa won 2 games, and drew 2 >>>>>against Lasker. I also found one draw from Moscow 1925. Seems like it's a bit >>>>>of a stretch to say that Lasker was stronger during this period. >>>> >>>>A bit of confusion. Make that 1 win and 1 draw in 1924...the other 2 games from >>>>1924 were against Edward Lasker. >>> >>>Two head to head games do not decide who is better during a year. The total sum >>>of all games against opponents at tournament time control is a better measure. >>> >>>IMO-YMMV. >> >>There is some truth in this, but then again, the Chessmetrics ratings must be >>taken with a grain (make that a large spoonful) of salt. In the early part of >>1927 Boboljubow is shown to be the strongest player in the world in the >>Chessmetric rating. > >If they made the lines fuzzy, with the width of the fuzzyness being the width of >the two standard deviation error bars, then the meaning would be a lot more >clear. > >Still, it's clearly the best Elo information site on the planet. Agreed. Before being retooled the the site listed Capa as having the highest overall historical rating, and because I'm a Capablanca fan (as you might guess from my posts), I really liked this data. However, after reading the articles on Chessbase regarding the changes Jeff Sonas made, I have to think the current method is probably better, even though JRC isn't shown to be the strongest player of all time.
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