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Subject: Re: Adams-HYDRA Announcement

Author: Ricardo Gibert

Date: 20:47:12 05/24/05

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On May 24, 2005 at 20:45:48, Vincent Lejeune wrote:

>On May 24, 2005 at 17:13:45, Dann Corbit wrote:
>
>>On May 24, 2005 at 16:16:35, Ricardo Gibert wrote:
>>
>>>On May 24, 2005 at 14:57:25, Dann Corbit wrote:
>>>
>>>>On May 24, 2005 at 14:51:01, GuyHaworth wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Channel 4 TV has a story that Michael Adams is to play HYDRA in a 6-game match,
>>>>>? in London next month.
>>>>>
>>>>>"The smart money's on the chip, which is 6x more powerful than DEEP BLUE".  No
>>>>>reference to Adams tailing off badly at the Mtel event.
>>>>
>>>>Deep Blue hit one billion NPS (with full eval) peak and 200M NPS sustained.
>>>>6x that would be 1.2 Billion NPS sustained.
>>>
>>>There is contradictory information on this. Hsu was finally pinned down on the
>>>issue and it turned out that the 1 billion NPS figure is a theoretical peak. The
>>>200 million NPS figure is the practical peak with 120 million NPS the sustained
>>>figure. Of course, it is the latter figure that is most useful, but the 1
>>>billion figure was tailor made for hyperbole.
>>
>>At 120M NPS (about 1000 times faster than Shredder on a 2.2 GHz machine)
>>Six times that would rate at 720,000,000 NPS sustained for Hydra.  Certainly,
>>this would be rather impressive if it were the correct figure.
>>
>>If doubling the speed gave one more ply, it would be 12 plies deeper than what
>>my machine can perform.
>>
>
>If my memory serve me well (it's not sure ;o) ), from operator chat on playchess
>: "hydra do 400,000,000 N/S : 200 M/S in 32 CPU + 200 M/s in 32 FPGA"

Given the estimated Deep Blue EBF of 4, that should be at least an order of
magnitude greater of what is needed to overtake Deep Blue depth-wise.

>
>>>>>Mmm:  I guess the usual discussion will start but this seems hype to me.
>>>>>However, it confirms that the 'DEEP_BLUE' is still taken as the 'SI unit' of
>>>>>computer chess.
>>>>
>>>>It's the stuff that legends are made of.



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