Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 20:51:18 05/25/05
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On May 25, 2005 at 13:51:02, Pablo Ignacio Restrepo wrote: >Dr Robert Hyatt >Thank you very much Dr Robert Hyatt. >I am Welcome for testing your engine and new projects if you want. >I will be better and hope sure that engines will be better too. >Best regard, >Pablo > I'm open to play most any time. If you will send me a private email, I can send you instructions on how to match crafty in unrated games as a guest if you want, for any time control you want to use. If you can succeed in locking the position, which is fairly difficult, I can then set crafty up to recognize you as a "blocker-type player" which will _really_ make it difficult to lock the pawns up for simple draws... > >On May 25, 2005 at 10:21:03, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>On May 24, 2005 at 13:16:12, Pablo Ignacio Restrepo wrote: >> >>>Dr Robert Hyatt. >>> >>>If in any moment you are interested in playing an engine against me as a humen >>>being, just tell me here in CCC, I will be Welcome to play if God get to me the >>>oportunity, into playchess engines room, or in ICC playing me as a guest. >>>I preffer playchess, I want to be honest.... For ICC is not a nice chess club. I >>>wrote why in my yesterday postes. >>>Best regard, >>>Pablo Restrepo >>> >> >> >>I do not play on playchess. I use xboard as the interface for Crafty, which I >>don't believe works on playchess, or at least it didn't. I play pretty much >>exclusively on ICC. If there is a time you want to play, let me know (server >>time would help in time zone conversion) and I'll set it up... >> >> >> >>> >>>On May 24, 2005 at 10:48:24, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>> >>>>On May 23, 2005 at 23:30:17, Pablo Ignacio Restrepo wrote: >>>> >>>>>Are you Moonbean nickname in ICC? >>>>>That was the game Dr. >>>>>Best regard, >>>>>Pablo. >>>> >>>>No. I run "crafty" and "scrappy" only. The other crafty ICC players are run by >>>>others... >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>On May 23, 2005 at 21:16:26, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On May 23, 2005 at 11:24:03, Matthew Hull wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On May 23, 2005 at 11:18:36, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>On May 23, 2005 at 11:07:32, Matthew Hull wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Well done. I did look at a few of the games myself and came to a similar >>>>>>>>>conclusion. Pablo's trick would not work so well at long time controls, I >>>>>>>>>think. He certainly could not do it "on demand" such as in a six-game showdown >>>>>>>>>at 120 0. But even though it's a lame trick, it should be allowed and >>>>>>>>>programmers are responsible to fight against tricks. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>I think the ICC rule 7 is wrong-headed. If I were running ICC, I would allow >>>>>>>>>repeating lines against programs. It is the programmer's responsibility to make >>>>>>>>>a better program than to allow itself to be exploited. It is just another >>>>>>>>>program weakness that needs fixing. There is no need to defend program >>>>>>>>>weaknesses with extra rules. I would allow (and even encourage) players to >>>>>>>>>punish such programmer oversights relentlessly. That's how you get better >>>>>>>>>programs. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>I'd bet money Bob Hyatt agrees with me on this. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>:) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Pretty much. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>I've always been a believer in "take control of your own destiny." >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>I'd be more than willing to have him play crafty in 3 0 games as long as he >>>>>>>>wants. And I'd bet money crafty will _never_ lose a 3 0 game against a human. >>>>>>>>And it won't lose against a computer unless the game is _way_ long, say 500 or >>>>>>>>more moves... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>There are really two kinds of people in the world. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>1. The kind that complain when something is exploited. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>2. The kind that recognize when something is exploited and then fix it so that >>>>>>>>it can't be exploited again. I went thru this in losing to very fast humans (no >>>>>>>>longer possible), repeating bad opening lines (book learning helps but doesn't >>>>>>>>totally solve it but positional learning offers even more help; The "trojan >>>>>>>>horse attack" was killing everyone and producing lots of complaints. I chose to >>>>>>>>prevent the attack. Etc. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Speaking of Crafty, where is it? It seems to have gone AWOL on ICC. :) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>No idea. Looks like a network glitch snapped the connection without telling my >>>>>>end it was closed. I just restarted xboard...
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