Author: Brian Katz
Date: 18:00:16 05/30/05
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On May 30, 2005 at 05:49:42, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote: >On May 29, 2005 at 20:34:01, Terry Giles wrote: > >>On May 29, 2005 at 20:32:06, Terry Giles wrote: >> >>> >>>I'm sure that this position has been analysed to death, but can anyone tell me >>>if any of the current 'off the shelf' chess programs running on a standard PC >>>will opt to play Deep Blue's move (37. Be4) within reasonable tournament time >>>limits? >>> >>> [D] r1r1q1k1/6p1/3b1p1p/1p1PpP2/1Pp5/2P4P/R1B2QP1/R5K1 w - - 0 37 >>> >>>Terry Giles > > 12/39 0:01 +0.86 1.Qb6 Rxa2 2.Rxa2 Bc7 3.Qe6+ Kf8 4.Kf1 Qxe6 5.fxe6 Ke7 >6.Be4 Rd8 (791.490) 481 > 13/34 0:02 +0.94 1.Qb6 Rxa2 2.Rxa2 Bc7 3.Qe6+ Kf8 4.Kf1 Qxe6 5.fxe6 Ke7 >6.Be4 Rd8 7.Ke2 Kd6 8.Ra6+ Ke7 9.Ke3 g6 (1.421.819) 496 > 14/41 0:05 +1.00 1.Qb6 Rxa2 2.Rxa2 Bc7 3.Qe6+ Kf8 4.Kf1 Qxe6 5.fxe6 Ke7 >6.Be4 Rd8 7.Ra7 Kd6 8.Ra6+ Ke7 9.Rc6 Bd6 10.Rb6 Rb8 (2.616.264) 467 > 15/43 0:09 +0.99 1.Qb6 Rxa2 2.Rxa2 Bc7 3.Qe6+ Kf8 4.Kf1 Qxe6 5.fxe6 Ke7 >6.Ra7 Kd6 (4.276.068) 442 > 16/46 0:18 +0.74-- 1.Qb6 Rxa2 (8.254.361) 453 > 16/46 0:28 +0.43 1.Qb6 Rxa2 2.Rxa2 Ra8 3.Ra5 Rxa5 4.bxa5 Qb8 5.Qc6 b4 6.Kf1 >b3 7.Bb1 Qc7 (12.589.755) 448 > 16/46 0:35 +0.44++ 1.Ra6 (15.895.659) 441 > 16/46 1:05 +0.45 1.Ra6 Qd8 2.Kf1 Rcb8 (29.642.885) 450 > 17/37 1:26 +0.53 1.Ra6 Qd8 2.Kf1 Rcb8 3.Be4 Qc8 4.Ra7 Rxa7 5.Qxa7 Rb7 6.Qa8 >Qxa8 7.Rxa8+ Kf7 8.g4 Ke7 9.Ke2 Rd7 (38.873.124) 448 > 18/40 2:06 +0.62 1.Ra6 Qd8 2.Kf1 Rcb8 3.Be4 Rxa6 4.Rxa6 Rb7 5.Qg3 Qb8 6.Qe3 >Qd8 7.Bf3 (58.307.990) 459 > 19/45 4:03 +0.37-- 1.Ra6 Qd8 (108.230.528) 444 > 19/45 4:13 +0.37 1.Ra6 e4 2.Qe3 Rxa6 3.Rxa6 Qe5 4.Bxe4 Re8 5.Kf2 Qh2 6.Qf3 >(112.755.173) 445 > 19/46 4:38 +0.38++ 1.Qb6 (125.052.382) 448 > 19/51 5:16 +0.41 1.Qb6 Rxa2 2.Rxa2 Ra8 3.Ra5 Rxa5 4.bxa5 Qb8 5.Qc6 b4 6.a6 >bxc3 7.Kh2 Kh7 8.Be4 Qb4 (140.981.985) 445 > 19/51 5:34 +0.42++ 1.Be4 (148.653.192) 444 > 19/51 6:11 +0.48 1.Be4 Qd8 2.Kf1 Bc7 3.Qd2 Rxa2 4.Qxa2 Rb8 5.Qa6 Rb6 6.Qa8 >Rb8 (164.173.477) 442 > 20/51 8:29 +0.61 1.Be4 Qd8 2.Kf1 Rcb8 3.Ra6 Rxa6 4.Rxa6 Rb7 5.h4 Kf8 6.h5 >Qb8 7.Bf3 Kg8 8.Qe3 Rd7 9.Qb6 Rd8 10.Qxb8 Bxb8 11.Ke2 Kf7 12.g3 (227.057.553) >445 > 21/50 10:48 +0.58 1.Be4 Qd8 2.Kf1 Rxa2 3.Qxa2 Rb8 4.Qa6 Rb6 5.Qa8 Bb8 6.Ra7 >Bxa7 (294.872.775) 454 > > >Deep Sjeng 1.0 reportedly also finds it, but it needs longer (and I don't have >the time nor the patience right now) :-) > >-- >GCP I am Running an AMD Athlon XP 2600+ , 1 Gig DDR SDRAM Hash Tables Set at 256 MB Using Fritz 8 1.Be4 is selected quite fast as shown below........It also switches to 1.Qb6... and back and ends up giving it roughly the same evaluation as 1.Be4... However, using Shredder 9.02 UCI, 1.Be4... is selected after opprox. 7 minutes. New game, r1r1q1k1/6p1/3b1p1p/1p1PpP2/1Pp5/2P4P/R1B2QP1/R5K1 w - - 0 1 Analysis by Fritz 8: 1.Be4 Rxa2 2.Qxa2 Rd8 3.Qe2 Qd7 4.Qh5 Qc7 ² (0.66) Depth: 7/18 00:00:00 35kN 1.Qb6! ² (0.69) Depth: 7/19 00:00:00 60kN 1.Qb6 Rxa2 2.Rxa2 Rd8 3.Ra5 Qd7 4.Qxb5 Qxb5 5.Rxb5 ± (0.72) Depth: 7/19 00:00:00 64kN 1.Qb6 Rxa2 2.Rxa2 Bc7 3.Qe6+ Qxe6 4.dxe6 Kf8 5.Be4 Bb6+ 6.Kf1 Ke7 ± (0.84) Depth: 8/25 00:00:00 109kN 1.Qb6 Bc7 2.Qe6+ Qxe6 3.dxe6 Rxa2 4.Rxa2 Kf8 5.Be4 Bb6+ ± (0.72) Depth: 9/27 00:00:00 248kN 1.Qb6 Bc7 2.Qe6+ Qxe6 3.dxe6 Rxa2 4.Rxa2 Kf8 5.Be4 ² (0.69) Depth: 10/24 00:00:00 527kN 1.Be4! ± (0.72) Depth: 10/27 00:00:00 617kN 1.Be4 Rxa2 2.Qxa2 Rd8 3.Qa6 Qd7 4.Qb6 Bc7 5.Qe6+ Qxe6 6.dxe6 ± (0.75) Depth: 11/30 00:00:01 1666kN 1.Be4 Rxa2 2.Qxa2 Rd8 3.Qa6 Qd7 4.Qb6 Bc7 5.Qe6+ Qxe6 6.dxe6 ± (0.75) Depth: 12/26 00:00:02 2700kN 1.Qb6! ± (0.78) Depth: 12/34 00:00:04 4069kN 1.Qb6 Bc7 2.Qe6+ Qxe6 3.dxe6 Rxa2 4.Rxa2 Kf8 5.Kf1 Ke7 6.Be4 Bb6 7.Rd2 Rd8 8.Rxd8 Kxd8 9.Ke2 ± (0.81) Depth: 13/38 00:00:08 7940kN 1.Qb6 Bc7 2.Qe6+ Qxe6 3.dxe6 Rxa2 4.Rxa2 Kf8 5.Kf1 Ke7 6.Be4 Bb6 7.Rd2 Rd8 8.Rxd8 Kxd8 9.Ke2 ± (0.81) Depth: 14/37 00:00:16 17433kN 1.Be4! ± (0.84) Depth: 14/37 00:00:23 24344kN 1.Be4 Rcb8 2.Ra6 Rxa6 3.Rxa6 Qf8 4.Qa7 Qd8 5.Kh2 Kf8 6.Ra5 Rb6 7.Qa8 Qxa8 8.Rxa8+ ± (0.84) Depth: 15/37 00:00:35 37457kN 1.Be4 Rcb8 2.Ra6 Rxa6 3.Rxa6 Qf8 4.Qa7 Qd8 5.Kh2 Kf8 6.Ra1 Kg8 ± (0.81) Depth: 16/40 00:00:59 62653kN 1.Qb6! ± (0.84) Depth: 16/45 00:01:19 84104kN (Katz, Eatontown 30.05.2005) New game, r1r1q1k1/6p1/3b1p1p/1p1PpP2/1Pp5/2P4P/R1B2QP1/R5K1 w - - 0 1 Analysis by Shredder 9.02 UCI: 1.Rxa8 Rxa8 = (0.03) Depth: 1/4 00:00:00 1.Qe3 = (0.21) Depth: 1/4 00:00:00 1.Qe3 = (0.21) Depth: 1/4 00:00:00 1.Be4 Qd8 ² (0.55) Depth: 1/4 00:00:00 1.Be4 Qd8 ² (0.55) Depth: 1/4 00:00:00 1.Qb6 ± (0.76) Depth: 1/4 00:00:00 1.Qb6 ± (0.76) Depth: 1/4 00:00:00 1.Qb6 ³ (-0.65) Depth: 2/7 00:00:00 1.Qb6 Rxa2 ³ (-0.65) Depth: 2/7 00:00:00 1.Rxa8 = (-0.10) Depth: 2/7 00:00:00 1.Rxa8 Rxa8 2.Rd1 = (-0.03) Depth: 2/7 00:00:00 1.Ra7 = (0.00) Depth: 2/7 00:00:00 1.Ra7 Rxa7 = (0.00) Depth: 2/7 00:00:00 1.Qe3 = (0.03) Depth: 2/7 00:00:00 1.Qe3 Rxa2 = (0.21) Depth: 2/7 00:00:00 1.Be4 Qd8 ² (0.55) Depth: 2/7 00:00:00 1.Be4 Qd8 ² (0.55) Depth: 2/7 00:00:00 1.Be4 Qd8 ² (0.55) Depth: 3/7 00:00:00 1.Be4 Qd8 ² (0.55) Depth: 4/7 00:00:00 1.Be4 Qd8 ² (0.55) Depth: 5/7 00:00:00 1.Be4 Qd8 ² (0.55) Depth: 6/7 00:00:00 4kN 1.Be4 Qd8 ² (0.55) Depth: 7/7 00:00:00 13kN 1.Be4 Qd8 ² (0.55) Depth: 8/8 00:00:00 24kN 1.Qb6 ² (0.56) Depth: 8/18 00:00:00 46kN 1.Qb6 Rxa2 2.Rxa2 Bc7 3.Qe6+ Kh8 4.Ra6 Rd8 5.Qxe8+ ² (0.63) Depth: 8/18 00:00:00 74kN 1.Qb6 Rxa2 2.Rxa2 Qd7 3.Ra6 Rd8 4.Ra7 ± (0.85) Depth: 9/18 00:00:02 130kN 1.Qb6 Rxa2 2.Rxa2 Bc7 3.Qe6+ Kf8 4.Kf1 Qxe6 5.fxe6 Ke7 6.Be4 Rd8 7.Ke2 Kd6 ± (0.73) Depth: 10/18 00:00:02 215kN 1.Qb6 Rxa2 2.Rxa2 Bc7 3.Qe6+ Kf8 4.Kf2 Rd8 5.g4 Rd6 ² (0.51) Depth: 11/25 00:00:03 341kN 1.Be4 Qd8 ² (0.55) Depth: 11/26 00:00:04 449kN 1.Be4 Qd8 ² (0.55) Depth: 11/26 00:00:04 449kN 1.Be4 Qd8 ² (0.55) Depth: 12/26 00:00:04 450kN 1.Qb6 ² (0.56) Depth: 12/26 00:00:04 535kN 1.Qb6 Rxa2 2.Rxa2 Bc7 3.Qe6+ Kh8 4.Kf1 Qd8 5.Qc6 Rb8 6.Ra7 ± (0.86) Depth: 12/30 00:00:05 834kN 1.Qb6 Rxa2 2.Rxa2 Bc7 3.Qe6+ Qxe6 4.fxe6 Kf8 5.Kf1 Ke7 6.Be4 Bb6 ± (0.87) Depth: 13/33 00:00:06 1334kN 1.Qb6 Rxa2 2.Rxa2 Bc7 3.Qe6+ Qxe6 4.fxe6 Kf8 5.Kf1 Ke7 6.Be4 Bb6 7.Ra6 Bc7 ± (0.95) Depth: 14/33 00:00:07 2145kN 1.Qb6 Rxa2 2.Rxa2 Bc7 3.Qe6+ Kf8 4.Kf1 Ra8 5.Rxa8 Qxa8 6.Qd7 Qb8 7.Bd1 Kg8 8.Bh5 Kh8 ± (1.17) Depth: 15/40 00:00:10 4353kN 1.Qb6 Rxa2 2.Rxa2 Bc7 3.Qe6+ Kf8 4.Kf1 Ra8 5.Rxa8 Qxa8 6.Qd7 Qa1+ 7.Ke2 Qxc3 8.Qc8+ Kf7 ± (1.21) Depth: 16/41 00:00:18 7754kN 1.Qb6 Rxa2 2.Rxa2 Bc7 3.Qe6+ Kf8 4.Kf1 Ra8 5.Qxe8+ Rxe8 6.Ra7 Bb8 ± (0.98) Depth: 17/44 00:00:32 13038kN 1.Qb6 Rxa2 ± (0.73) Depth: 18/49 00:01:14 31677kN 1.Qb6 Rd8 2.Be4 Rab8 3.Qe3 Bc7 4.Ra6 Rd6 5.Rxd6 Bxd6 6.Ra6 Qd7 7.Kf1 Kf8 8.Qg3 Rd8 ² (0.60) Depth: 18/49 00:01:55 48923kN 1.Qb6 Rxa2 2.Rxa2 Ra8 3.Ra5 Rxa5 4.bxa5 Qb8 5.Kf1 Qxb6 6.axb6 Kf8 7.g4 Ke7 8.b7 ² (0.37) Depth: 19/50 00:03:44 95253kN 1.Ra6 ² (0.38) Depth: 19/50 00:04:13 107241kN 1.Ra6 e4 2.Qe3 Rxa6 3.Rxa6 Qe5 4.Bxe4 Qh2+ 5.Kf1 Re8 6.Kf2 Kh7 ² (0.39) Depth: 19/50 00:05:41 144045kN 1.Be4 Qd8 ² (0.55) Depth: 19/50 00:06:59 176754kN 1.Be4 Qd8 ² (0.55) Depth: 19/50 00:06:59 176844kN 1.Be4 Qd8 ² (0.55) Depth: 20/50 00:07:00 176932kN (Katz, Eatontown 30.05.2005) Brian
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