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Subject: Re: The language barrier........

Author: Peter Skinner

Date: 13:48:56 05/31/05

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On May 31, 2005 at 14:05:52, Christopher Conkie wrote:

>Hello Dann,
>
>Well I don't want the kind of destructive argument that did take place in that
>thread and I contacted them.

Of course you contacted them. The thread started to show you in a negative
light, and went crying to the moderators. What a surprise!! This isn't the first
time.

>We are all trying to collate information rather than get caught up in some >angry argument.

No, you are collecting information that agrees with your line of thinking, and
disregarding everything else.

>Someone said they had contacted Symantec and did not provide any supporting
>evidence. I asked for it and got diddly squat.

Of course you got squat. Like you said, it would just be fabricated. So why not
email Symantec and get your own "fabricated" answer back.

>I don't believe it ever happened and that there is no mail.

I believe that George Bush Jr is a complete and utter moron, that doesn't make
it so.

>I could however contact them if you like. I think however that the answer from
>them will pretty much be what is on their webpage.

EMAIL THEM AND FIND OUT! I did just that, and yes you do get a polite response
directing you to that link, but you also get answers to the _specific_ questions
you ask.

>To embed a script in an exe before compilation would require some
>transformation. There is no proof anywhere that this nastiness attaches itself
>to anything. It just does not work like that.

Ok.. if you say so. I forgot.. you are the expert.

>I still have a copy of the offending exe and if any programmer would like to
>take up the challenge, it could be made available to them. I have musterred all
>my web power to try to provide a sane and logical explanation for this as I
>personally do not wish that this is true.

Of course you wish it to be true. You're not happy unless you are attacking
something or someone.

>Also the script is in a different language. For compilation to succeed it would
>need to be translated for the compile to be successful. I've tried it.

If you had _any_ clue where to look, you would _know_ that this virus has been
ported to another language. It's in the ole black box..

>If you would like me to contact Symantec (or any anti-virus company) to get a
>definative answer I can. Any responses I can publish for the benefit of those
>who did use the file.

I have been telling you to contact them for two days... why haven't you done so?

>I just can't see an explanation anywhere. I would like to be wrong but......

I showed you the explanation. I just didn't explain the method entirely, but you
will look like an ass once this is all said and done.

>Shall I send them a mail? I'm sure that they will reply. They might be able to
>examine it for themselves and explain how. What do you think?

Yes send them a bloody email. Scared to be proven wrong?

Peter



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