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Subject: Re: Bestmove correct in Arasan testsuite?

Author: Eelco de Groot

Date: 18:39:56 05/31/05

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On May 31, 2005 at 18:24:33, Richard Pijl wrote:

>I've been using the arasan testsuites quite a lot as they contain a nice mix of
>different type of positions. Today I was looking at a position that was always
>solved by the Baron in 30 seconds, but not anymore by the latest test version.
>I'm talking about the position with id Arasan.81:
>[D]1B4k1/5p2/K5p1/7p/P4P2/5P2/8/6n1 b - -
>Bestmove is said to be f5, to block the bishop from stopping the black pawn on
>h5 from queening. This seems to be confirmed by many engines with about a draw
>score. But now, after an initial drawish score, the Baron shows a show of minus
>1 pawn in a second, quickly decreasing to - 3 pawns for f5, later switching to
>Nxf3 with a similar score. Somehow f5 doesn't seem to be that good.
>Just to be sure I also checked with Ruffian, and also Ruffian shows a declining
>score for 1..f5, although it needs a little more time to see that.
>One line seems to be 1..f5 2.Ba7 Nxf3 (or 2..Ne2 3.Bf2) 3.Bf2 h4 4.Bxh4 and the
>a-pawn queens as the king and knight are too far away, e.g  4..Nxh4 5.a5 (5..Nf3
>6.Kb6!) Ng2 6.Kb5 Nxf4 7.a6 Nd5 8.a7 Nc7 9.Kc6 Na8 10.Kb7
>Is there anyone that has a drawing(winning?) line for black after 1..f5?
>bye,
>Richard.


I don't know if it is correct but two programs also indicate that after f7-f5,
Ba7 is a good move for White. Seems very good analysis from The Baron!

Toga II, based on Fruit from Fabien Letouzey


00:00:20.0	2,16	1	2	Nxf3
00:00:20.1	1,80	2	49	Nxf3 Kb5
00:00:20.1	2,12	2	108	h4 f5 Nxf3 fxg6 fxg6
00:00:20.1	2,12	3	173	h4 f5 Nxf3 fxg6 fxg6
00:00:20.1	2,19	3	319	Nxf3 f5 g5
00:00:20.1	1,72	4	628	Nxf3 Kb5 h4 a5
00:00:20.1	2,06	4	1167	h4 Ba7 Nxf3 Kb5
00:00:20.1	2,17	5	2132	h4 f5 g5 Be5 Nxf3
00:00:20.1	1,85	6	3186	h4 f5 g5 a5 Nxf3 Kb6
00:00:20.1	2,42	7	8218	h4 Kb5 h3 f5 g5 a5 Nxf3
00:00:20.1	2,01	8	14564	h4 f5 g5 a5 Nxf3 Kb6 Nd4 f6
00:00:20.3	2,18	9	25976	h4 f5 g5 a5 Nxf3 Kb6 Nd4 a6 Nxf5
00:00:20.5	2,21	10	38347	h4 f5 g5 a5 Nxf3 Kb5 h3 a6 Nd4+ Kc5 Nxf5
00:00:25.7	1,45	11	105383	h4 f5 Nxf3 fxg6 fxg6 Kb5 h3 a5 Kf7 a6 Nd4+ Kc5 Nf3
00:00:28.5	1,49	12	213623	h4 f5 Nxf3 fxg6 fxg6 Kb5 h3 a5 Nd4+ Kc5 Nb3+ Kb5 Kf7
a6 Ke6
00:00:29.6	1,35	13	354615	h4 f5 Nxf3 fxg6 fxg6 Kb5 h3 a5 Nd4+ Kc5 Nb3+ Kb4 Nxa5
Kxa5 g5 Be5 g4
00:00:31.8	1,24	14	727396	h4 f5 Nxf3 fxg6 fxg6 Kb5 Kf7 a5 Nd4+ Kc5 Nb3+ Kb4 Nxa5
Kxa5 g5 Kb5 Ke6 Kc4
00:00:35.6	0,88	15	1387600	h4 f5 Nxf3 fxg6 f6 Bf4 Ne5 Kb5 Nxg6 Bh2 h3 a5 Ne5 a6
Kf7
00:00:50.2	0,58	16	3954714	h4 f5 Nxf3 fxg6 fxg6 Kb5 Kf7 a5 Nd4+ Kb6 Nf5 a6 Ne7
Kc5 Nc8 Kd4 g5 Ke4
00:00:52.7	0,71	16	4420506	Nxf3 f5 Nd4 fxg6 fxg6 Kb6 Nb3 Bf4 h4 a5 Nxa5 Kxa5 h3
Kb5 g5 Be5 Kf7 Kc4
00:02:56.6	-1,09	17	26173096	Nxf3 a5 h4 Kb6 f5 a6 h3 a7 h2 a8Q h1Q Be5+ Kf7 Qb7+
Ke6 Qc6+ Ke7 Qd6+ Kf7 Qd7+ Kf8 Qd8+ Kf7 Qf6+ Ke8 Qxg6+ Ke7 Qf6+ Ke8 Qxf5
00:03:04.3	0,28	17	27561703	h4 f5 Nxf3 fxg6 f6 Bf4 Ne5 Kb5 Nxg6 Bh2 h3 a5 Ne7 a6
Nc8 Bf4 Kf7
00:03:26.7	0,60	17	31568481	f5 Kb5 h4 a5 h3 a6 h2 a7 h1Q a8Q Qxf3 Qa2+ Kh7 Qf7+
Kh6 Be5 Qd3+ Kc5 Qe3+ Kb5 Qe2+ Kc5 Qc2+ Qc4 Qd2
00:03:45.9	0,37	18	34915429	f5 Kb5 h4 a5 h3 a6 h2 a7 h1Q a8Q Qxf3 Qa2+ Kh7 Qa7+
Kh6 Qxg1 Qb3+ Kc5 Qxb8 Qg5+ Kh7 Qe7+ Kg8 Qe6+ Kg7 Qe7+ Kh8 Qe5+ Qxe5+ fxe5
00:04:39.7	0,00	19	44421972	f5 Kb5 h4 a5 h3 a6 h2 a7 h1Q a8Q Qxf3 Qa2+ Kh7 Qa7+
Kh6 Qxg1 Qb3+ Kc5 Qxb8 Qg5+ Kh7 Qe7+ Kg8 Qe6+ Kg7 Qe7+ Kh8 Qf6+ Kh7 Qe7+
00:06:43.7	0,00	20	66311762	f5 Kb5 h4 a5 h3 a6 h2 a7 h1Q a8Q Qxf3 Qa2+ Kh7 Qa7+
Kh6 Qxg1 Qb3+ Kc5 Qxb8 Qg5+ Kh7 Qe7+ Kg8 Qe6+ Kg7 Qe7+ Kh8 Qf6+ Kh7 Qe7+
00:10:19.1	0,00	21	103383206	f5 Kb5 h4 a5 h3 a6 h2 a7 h1Q a8Q Qxf3 Qa2+ Kh7 Qa7+
Kh6 Qxg1 Qb3+ Kc5 Qxb8 Qg5+ Kh7 Qe7+ Kg8 Qe6+ Kg7 Qe7+ Kh8 Qf6+ Kh7 Qe7+
00:17:31.4	0,00	22	177929386	f5 Kb5 h4 a5 h3 a6 h2 a7 h1Q a8Q Qxf3 Qa2+ Kh7 Qa7+
Kh6 Qxg1 Qb3+ Kc5 Qxb8 Qg5+ Kh7 Qe7+ Kg8 Qe6+ Kg7 Qe7+ Kh8 Qf6+ Kh7 Qe7+
00:44:06.3	-2,38	23	451890487	f5 Ba7 Nxf3 Bf2 h4 Bxh4 Kf7 Kb7 Nd4 a5 Nb3 a6 Nc5+
Kb6 Nxa6 Kxa6 Ke6 Kb5 Kd5 Be7 Ke4 Bd6 Ke3 Be5 Ke4
Current move: Kh7  (7/11)  depth=23

Celeron 500 MHz, 32 Mb HT, default personality as I could not get that new
feature by Jim Ablett working under UCI I in my Lokasoft Chess Partner. It is an
interesting program though! I just installed it. And a nice thing to have
personality options now for Toga. Maybe I can get it to work in Winboard.

Pro Deo 1.1 Vulcan Q1d8d on a much faster Athlon 3200+, 200 Mb HT


00:00:00.1	2,33	1	4	Kg7
00:00:00.1	2,66	1	6	Ne2
00:00:00.1	4,06	1	14	h4
00:00:00.1	2,40	2	77	h4 a5
00:00:00.2	3,64	3	314	h4 f5 Nxf3
00:00:00.2	2,28	4	766	h4 a5 h3 Kb7
00:00:00.2	2,02	5	1486	h4 a5 Kf8 f5 Nxf3 Bd6+
00:00:00.2	2,38	6	3973	h4 a5 h3 f5 Nxf3 Kb7 gxf5
00:00:00.2	1,64	7	8598	h4 a5 h3 Kb7 h2 a6 Ne2 a7
00:00:00.2	1,75	8	19672	h4 a5 h3 Kb7 h2 a6 h1Q
00:00:00.2	1,75	9	32906	h4 a5 h3 Kb7 h2 a6
00:00:00.3	0,65	10	187684	h4 a5 f5 Kb7 h3 a6 h2 a7
00:00:00.5	0,53	11	508768	h4 a5 Nxf3 Kb6 h3 f5 Kg7 a6 g5 a7 g4 Bf4
00:00:00.6	0,53	11	641982	Nxf3
00:00:00.6	0,94	11	723041	Nxf3 a5 f6 Kb5 g5 fxg5 fxg5 a6 h4 a7 g4 Bh2 Nxh2
00:00:00.9	0,94	12	1135031	Nxf3 a5 h4 Kb6 f6 a6 g5 fxg5 fxg5
00:00:01.7	0,83	13	2219206	Nxf3 a5 h4 Kb6 h3 f5 g5 a6 Kg7 a7 g4 Bf4 Kf6 Bd6 Kg5
00:00:09.4	-2,93	14	13715068	Nxf3 a5 h4 Kb6 h3 f5 gxf5 a6 Kh7 a7 f6
00:00:13.2	-0,14	14	19561677	h4 a5 h3 f5 Kg7 Kb6 g5 a6 Nxf3 Ka5
00:00:22.8	-2,22	15	34070353	h4 Kb6 f5 a5 h3 a6 h2 a7
00:00:50.5	-1,58	16	76368856	h4 Kb6 f5 a5 h3 a6 h2 a7
00:01:09.2	-1,58	17	104652768	h4 Kb6 f5 a5 h3 a6 h2 a7
00:03:16.4	-0,38	18	303875503	h4 Kb6 f5 a5 h3 a6 h2 a7
00:07:41.8	-2,22	19	722400390	h4 f5 Nxf3 a5 Nd4 Kb6 Nxf5 a6
00:12:32.2	-0,38	19	1155324925	f5 a5 h4 Kb6 h3 a6 h2 a7
00:16:24.1	-0,52	20	1506153410	f5 Ba7 Nxf3 Bf2 Nd2 Kb5 Ne4
00:29:44.3	-0,69	21	2737325164	f5 Ba7 Nxf3 Bf2




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