Author: Kurt Utzinger
Date: 15:51:45 06/01/05
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On June 01, 2005 at 18:35:46, Ed Schröder wrote:
>On June 01, 2005 at 18:26:02, Kurt Utzinger wrote:
>
>>On June 01, 2005 at 11:29:55, Ed Schröder wrote:
>>
>>[...]
>>>Conclusion - You must be playing with some weird settings, in any case you are
>>>not playing with the default settings. I checked all learner settings, no
>>>setting can create the 2 moves (and scores) in question.
>>
>> I agree with this. Both moves played by Pro Deo 1.1 at SSDF
>> can't be reproduced on my P4 1.8/60 MB hash. I have tested
>> under Shredder 9 Classic GUI and are going to repeat the
>> test under Arena-GUI.
>> Kurt
>
>It's not so simple because of the (possible) effect of position learning.
>Position learning slightly increases the value of the [Attractiveness] parameter
>to escape from previous lost games. But the silly moves and too low iteration
>depths as shown in the games can not be blamed to these (unseen) internal
>changes.
>
>Ed
Hello Ed
The bad moves are also avoided under Arena GUI though
the output of the analysis is/was not fully identical
to the Shredder 9 Classic GUI
Kurt
FEN: rn2r1k1/1pqnbppp/p2pb3/4p1P1/4P1B1/1NN1B3/PPP2P1P/R2Q1R1K b - - 0 1
Pro Deo 1.1:
1 00:00 7 7.000 +0.19 Lxg4 Dxg4
1 00:00 14 14.000 -0.01 Sc6
2 00:00 227 227.000 +0.22 Sc6 Sd5
2 00:00 547 547.000 +0.01 Lxg4 Dxg4 Sc6
3 00:00 1.166 1.166.000 +0.23 Lxg4 Dxg4 Sc6 Df5
4 00:00 7.155 7.155.000 +0.22 Lxg4 Dxg4 b6 Df5 Sc6
4 00:00 8.028 8.028.000 +0.12 Sc6 Sd5 Lxd5 Dxd5 Sb4
4 00:00 10.868 10.868.000 +0.05 Sb6 Lxe6 fxe6 Lxb6 Dxb6 Dh5
5 00:00 19.609 19.609.000 +0.33 Sb6 Lxe6 fxe6 Dh5 Tf8 f4
5 00:00 22.493 22.493.000 +0.16 Sc6 Sd5 Dd8 h4
6 00:00 75.987 75.987.000 +0.13 Sc6 Sd5 Dd8 Tg1 Sc5 Sxe7+
7 00:00 151.071 151.071.000 +0.18 Sc6 Sd5 Dd8 Tg1 Lxd5 exd5 Sb4 Lf5
8 00:01 517.188 517.188 +0.22 Sc6 Sd5 Dd8 Tg1 b5 Df3 Lxd5 exd5
9 00:03 1.405.161 468.387 +0.23 Sc6 Sd5 Dd8 Tg1 b6 c4 Lxg4 Dxg4 Sc5
10 00:08 3.569.668 446.208 +0.25 Sc6 Sd5 Dd8 Tg1 b5 Df3 a5 a4 bxa4 Sxe7+
11 00:20 9.217.397 460.869 +0.29 Sc6 Sd5 Dd8 Tg1 Tf8 c4 a5 Sd2 Lxg4 Dxg4
Sc5
12 01:05 29.606.197 455.479 +0.26 Sc6 Sd5 Dd8 Tg1 Tf8 c4 a5 a3 g6 a4
13 02:21 65.175.512 462.237 +0.27 Sc6 Sd5 Dd8 Tg1 Tc8
FEN: rn1q1r1k/1p2bppp/p2p1N2/6P1/4PQ2/1N3R2/PPP4P/R6K b - - 0 1
Pro Deo 1.1:
1 00:00 32 32.000 -1.50 gxf6 gxf6
2 00:00 366 366.000 +0.42 gxf6 gxf6 Te8 fxe7 Txe7
2 00:00 844 844.000 -0.71 Sc6 Sd5 Lxg5
3 00:00 952 952.000 -0.71 Sc6 Sd5 Lxg5
4 00:00 1.654 1.654.000 -0.71 Sc6 Sd5 Lxg5
5 00:00 11.923 11.923.000 +0.26 Sc6 Df5 gxf6 gxf6 Lxf6 Dxf6+ Dxf6 Txf6
5 00:00 26.848 26.848.000 +0.14 d5 Sxd5 Lxg5 Df5 Sd7
5 00:00 31.944 31.944.000 -0.32 b5 Sd5 Lxg5
6 00:00 75.346 75.346.000 +0.62 b5 Df5 Lxf6 gxf6 g6 Dh3 h5
6 00:00 118.861 118.861.000 +0.26 Sc6 Dh4 h6 Td1 Se5 Tff1 Lxf6
6 00:00 149.053 149.053.000 +0.02 Sd7 Sxd7 Dxd7 Df5 Dxf5 Txf5 Tac8 Sd4
7 00:00 218.921 218.921.000 -0.06 Sd7 Sxd7 Dxd7 Df5 Dxf5 Txf5 g6 Td5 f5
Te1 Lxg5
8 00:01 351.219 351.219.000 -0.01 Sd7 Sxd7 Dxd7 Taf1 Tac8 T1f2 Db5 Dg4
Dc4
9 00:01 813.818 813.818 +0.80 Sd7 Sxh7 Kxh7 Dh4+ Kg8 Th3 f5 Dh7+ Kf7
Dh5+ g6 Dh7+ Ke8 Dxg6+ Tf7 Th8+ Sf8 exf5 Lxg5 Te1+
9 00:05 2.545.757 509.151 +0.79 Sc6 Th3 h6 Td1 Se5 Df5 Lxf6 gxf6 Dxf6 Dxf6
gxf6 Txh6+
9 00:12 5.953.650 496.137 +0.55 Dc8 Sd5 Dd8 Df5 Lxg5 Tg1
10 00:15 7.510.334 500.688 +1.16 Dc8 Tg1 a5 Sd5 Dd8 Sd4 Sc6 Sf5
10 00:17 8.257.204 485.717 +0.64 Sc6 Th3 Lxf6 Dh4 h6 gxf6 Dxf6 Dxf6 gxf6
Td1 Kh7 Txd6
11 00:20 10.013.149 500.657 +0.69 Sc6 Th3 Lxf6 Dh4 h6 gxf6 Dxf6 Dxf6 gxf6
Txh6+ Kg7 Th5 Kg6
12 00:30 15.053.884 501.796 +0.69 Sc6 Th3 Lxf6 Dh4 h6 gxf6 Dxf6 Dxf6 gxf6
Txh6+ Kg7 Th5 Kg6
13 00:47 24.567.987 522.723 +1.01 Sc6 Th3 Lxf6 Dh4 h6 gxf6 Dxf6 Dxf6 gxf6
Txh6+ Kg7 Th5 Tfc8
13 01:54 62.055.091 544.342 +0.84 Lxf6 gxf6 Dxf6 Dxf6 gxf6 Td1 Sd7 Txd6
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