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Subject: Re: How is Hydra faster and better than Deep Blue?

Author: Drexel,Michael

Date: 22:23:16 06/01/05

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On June 01, 2005 at 20:57:05, Mike Hood wrote:

>On June 01, 2005 at 09:42:11, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On June 01, 2005 at 09:33:09, Mike Hood wrote:
>>
>>>On May 30, 2005 at 02:02:49, Amir wrote:
>>>
>>>>Deep Blue could calculate 200 million moves per second. According to what I have
>>>>read, Hydra calculates 40 million moves per second. How then is Hydra sees
>>>>deeper or is faster than Deep Blue, as is claimed by the authors??
>>>
>>>It's pure speculation. Both Hydra and Deep Blue have their fans, so there will
>>>never be an agreement. Deep Blue was faster, doubtless, but chess programming
>>>algorithms have improved since Deep Blue's days. My personal opinion? I just
>>>don't know.
>>>
>>>There's only one way to resolve the issue. Hydra's programmers should challenge
>>>Deep Blue to a match, giving IBM adequate time to reassemble the machine. If
>>>Deep Blue fails to accept the challenge, Hydra can claim victory by default.
>>
>>By this reason every program can claim win by default against Deep Blue.
>>Deep Blue stopped to play chess and not other programs.
>>
>>Uri
>
>Exactly, Uri. Soon after the victory against Kasparov the Deep Blue computer was
>dismantled. The supposed reason was that the hardware was very expensive and was
>needed elsewhere. I personally find it hard to believe that IBM was so short of
>cash that it had to cannibalize a world famous computer. The real reason is easy
>to guess. Someone high up in the IBM hierarchy (much higher than the honest Deep
>Blue programmers) was afraid that Deep Blue might lose a rematch against
>Kasparov, so Deep Blue had to quit while it was ahead. Deep Blue might have lost
>a match against Anand (who was a better anti-computer player than Kasparov), or
>may even have lost against a much lower rated player. Worst of all, Deep Blue
>might have lost against another computer program. There was only one way to
>solve the problem: just tear the machine apart and say "We're the best. We have
>nothing to prove".
>
>Deep Blue will never return. If IBM does come back to compete in computer chess
>it will be with new hardware and new software. Deep Blue should be treated the
>same way as respected human world champions of many years past.

No way I respect it like a former human world champion because it beated
Kasparov in an exhibition match with Garry playing at 2300 level.
Many Americans are understandably biased.

I look at the games and say:
I´m not impressed.

Michael


They were the
>best in their day, they might have been good enough to beat today's best
>players, but they're dead, so we'll never know.



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