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Subject: Re: 2 Intuitive move test positions

Author: stuart taylor

Date: 04:34:24 06/03/05

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On June 02, 2005 at 22:30:27, Terry McCracken wrote:

>On June 02, 2005 at 22:09:13, John Merlino wrote:
>
>>On June 02, 2005 at 19:53:39, ludicrous wrote:
>>
>>>The first one is:
>>>
>>>[D]2bqkb1r/1r1n1ppp/p3p3/np6/4PB2/2N2NP1/P1Q2PBP/3R1RK1 w k - 0 16
>>>
>>>White to move.  Umansky played Nd5!!
>>
>>This looks like a sound sacrifice. However, CM9_R1 does not find it on an AMD
>>2500 in under three minutes.
>>
>>>The next is:
>>>
>>>Tal Mikhail (LAT) - Larsen Bent (DEN) [B82]
>>>Ch World match (1/2) Bled (Yugoslavia), 10.03.1965
>>>
>>>[D]rqb2rk1/3nbppp/p2pp3/6P1/1p1BPP2/2NB1Q2/PPP4P/2KR3R w - - 0 16
>>>
>>>Tal played 16. Nd5!
>>
>>But THIS looks like one of those infamous Tal "sacrifices" that did nothing more
>>than put the fear of God into his opponent. The King prefers many different
>>moves for Black other than the ones that Larsen played:
>>
>>17...g6 (score of -1.25) instead of 17...f5 (-0.50)
>>18...Bd8 (score of -1.94) instead of 18...Rf7 (-1.05)
>>19...Nc5 (score of -1.27) instead of 18...Bb7 (+0.75)
>>
>>Of course, this requires more intense analysis, but the early verdict is that
>>Tal stole another one.... :-)
>>
>>jm
>
>John the sac is sound, you can't take the Night without risk and if it lives it
>wins. If you mess with this long enough and go deep enough White's pieces are
>too much for Black's King. Maybe you can muster a defence, but it will be tough.
>
>Don't trust the King program that much...it fails to grasp sacs like Nxe6! in
>the Carro-Kann.
>
>1.e4 c6 2.d4 d5 3.Nc3 dc 4.Nxe4 Nd7 5.Bd3 Ngf6 6.Ng5 e6 7.Nf3 h6? 8.Nxe6!
>
>This test might be better suited for Junior or Rebel:)
>
>Terry
>
>The King is badly confused by this sac.

I would love to see any computer play this move (of Tal). I have my doubts,
however. Was there no better way of uncovering his bishop which points towards
h7? Or was the K-file worth the sac? What happened (in the game), happened, but
it's hard to believe it is the best move. Tal's position anyway looked very
good, before that.
S.Taylor



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