Author: Vincent Diepeveen
Date: 18:36:08 06/06/05
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On June 05, 2005 at 09:22:34, Murat wrote: > > >if this happens, apple will become nothing more then a x86 pc clone. > >it is most likely that next operating system form apple will run on any intel or >amd based computer. > >this will bring apple hardware to an end. in a few years they will become a >software only company. trying to compete with microsoft in OS market. > >good luck to them but it is a sad day for apple fans like myself. that just shows how ignorant you were as an apple user, because last few processors apple didn't create itself either, they bought them from other manufacturers. This time they buy one from intel. that doesn't need to be some failed P4 processor. That could just as well be some great watercooled overclocked dual core improved pentium-m, doing 4 instructions a cycle rather than 3 which is normal today; i suspect that it will take quite some years for intel to deliver. by then the intel processor might be fast again and for sure delivered cheap to apple. Apples real problem is the expensive price of a single box of them versus its poor performance. Their 2 choices is either drive on the x86-64 lane, or take the playstation3 lane which went towards ibm's cell processor. the ps3 developers make without exception mass market games with big graphics which needs a fast videocard and they were already used to embarrassingly parallel way of programming for the playstation2. So basically just more of the same hard way to code software is what will be needed there. It's very obvious that for the average apple user that will be disaster and problems, as that cell processor might be great for embarrassingly parallel software, but it will suck ass for MacShredder. To give an important example of software we all are going to use at a mac, isn't it? That will scare of possibly 50% of their current users. So Apples only real 2 serious options was between choosing a x86-64 processor from intel, or choosing a x86-64 processor from AMD. Obviously intel offered it cheaper, which is no big surprise to me. So any software you plan to run within a few years at apple, will by then run a lot faster than it does do now, as of course the dual G5 even when it would be clocked at 4Ghz is for chess not even closely as fast as a dual opteron dual core 2.2Ghz. So intel cpu's for apple, that's good news for apple users if you ask me. You can spit on the P4 of course, but it's very unlikely that the next generation of intel processor which will release around end 2006, start 2007 (that's the old plans, dunno whether they have been hurried up by now) will be that slow. It basically looked like some high clocked 21264 with 16 general programming registers to me. We still have to wait and see whether AMD will be able to produce something like that by then. Opteron and A64 are kicking butt right now, but by 2007 newer technology might be able to produce more effective processing power. If not in 2007 then in 2008 the opteron will be old. > >Murat ... Vincent
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