Author: Terry McCracken
Date: 22:41:28 06/06/05
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On June 07, 2005 at 00:25:42, David Mitchell wrote: >On June 06, 2005 at 22:55:17, David H. McClain wrote: > >>On June 06, 2005 at 19:43:07, Mark Ryan wrote: >> >>>Some more of Chrilly's comments at chessgames.com: >>> >>> >>>June 4: >>>Besides these, Hydra is not unbeatable at all. We estimate that the programm has >>>about 2950 Elo. Fritz, Shredder about 2800. 150 Elo more does not mean, that one >>>can not loose. The combination of strong human player plus Shredder&Fritz is >>>according our internal results about as strong as Hydra. >>> >> >>As a layman, let me see if this is a valid deduction: >> >>The theory is that every doubling of speed is worth about 40 ELO points. I >>think this has been stated here many times. If that is a viable estimate, then >>Hydra is acutally much weaker that Shedder on equal hardware. Correct? >> >>If that is the case, then what is the point the Hydra team is trying to make? >>Well, to me they are proving that there is a point that is reached where >nothing >>is given in return, and they seem to have already surpassed this point but >don't know it. DHM > >Over the past several years, Shredder has proven it's premier ranking amongst >the strongest software chess programs. Hydra's software is just a baby by >comparison. > >There is no doubt that Shredder software is stronger than Hydra's, imo. > >Hydra's use of hardware however, is unique, and the combination of that hardware >and software, which is impossible with Shredder et. al., may indeed prove or >currently even be, stronger than Shredder on any hardware it can run on. > >It would be intersting to see Shredder on a dynamite 16 cpu fast opteron system, >matched up against Hydra. > >Dave Hell, go all the way to 32 cpu's and adjust Shredder to utilize them, and use the 64bit program ver. on a 64bit windows system...I think Hydra will lose its heads faster than it can grow them back;-) Be expensive though, but so is Hydra, to the extreme. Terry
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