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Subject: Re: More from Chrilly about Hydra - Wait a minute!

Author: Madhavan

Date: 23:23:03 06/06/05

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On June 07, 2005 at 02:09:56, Uri Blass wrote:

>On June 06, 2005 at 22:55:17, David H. McClain wrote:
>
>>On June 06, 2005 at 19:43:07, Mark Ryan wrote:
>>
>>>Some more of Chrilly's comments at chessgames.com:
>>>
>>>
>>>June 4:
>>>Besides these, Hydra is not unbeatable at all. We estimate that the programm has
>>>about 2950 Elo. Fritz, Shredder about 2800. 150 Elo more does not mean, that one
>>>can not loose. The combination of strong human player plus Shredder&Fritz is
>>>according our internal results about as strong as Hydra.
>>>
>>
>>As a layman, let me see if this is a valid deduction:
>>
>>The theory is that every doubling of speed is worth about 40 ELO points.
>
>No
>
>I do not know the theory and 70 elo or 50 elo was mentioned.
>I think that 50 elo is the estimate based on the ssdf results.
>
>Maybe 40 elo is correct for faster hardware.
>
>  I
>>think this has been stated here many times.  If that is a viable estimate, then
>>Hydra is acutally much weaker that Shedder on equal hardware.  Correct?
>
>No
>1)Hydra is not a software but hardware so you cannot use it on equal hardware.

there was a rumor,someone who had been running Hydra 8 all the time in chessbase
server

I'm sure it was not from Chrilly's testers or team

>2)I do not believe that hydra's hardware give hydra advantage that is equivalent
>to being  more than 10 times faster.

Is hydra an improved version of Nimzo?

>>If that is the case, then what is the point the Hydra team is trying to make?
>>Well, to me they are proving that there is a point that is reached where nothing
>>is given in return, and they seem to have already surpassed this point but don't
>>know it.  DHM
>
>Nonsense.
>There is no point when nothing is given in return.
>
>Uri



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