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Subject: Re: More from Chrilly about Hydra - Wait a minute!

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 03:56:31 06/07/05

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On June 07, 2005 at 04:23:07, Kolss wrote:

>On June 07, 2005 at 02:09:56, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>2)I do not believe that hydra's hardware give hydra advantage that is equivalent
>>to being  more than 10 times faster.
>
>
>Hello Uri,
>
>At the last IPCCC (Feb. 2005) I had the (dubious?!) pleasure to play Hydra (the
>16-way version) with Ikarus. Ikarus was running on a Centrino 2.0 GHz which is
>approximately equivalent in terms of speed to an "Athlon 3800+". We (i.e.
>Chrilly, Christopher (Lutz) and I) discovered that Hydra plies seemed to be more
>or less equal to Ikarus plies with respect to what is seen (i.e. tactical
>horizon). Hydra was reaching three, sometimes four more plies than Ikarus:
>Ikarus would play a move that Hydra had not expected, Hydra's evaluation would
>jump up, and Ikarus would need one more move to see that it had been bad; or
>Hydra would expect a move with a good score (for itself, of course), Ikarus
>would "plan" something different with OK evaluation, then after two or three
>minutes it would fail low, see what was wrong and eventually change to the move
>expected by Hydra; in gereral, Ikarus would more or less show the evaluation
>that Hydra had had two moves earlier in the game.
>
>Three to four plies (very) roughly translates into a factor of 20 (+- perhaps 5)
>with an average effective braching factor.

Thanks for the information but it does not prove nothing because Hydra may have
better software than Ikarus.

Uri



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