Author: Madhavan
Date: 06:18:02 06/07/05
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On June 07, 2005 at 09:07:56, Jonas Cohonas wrote:
>>>If people find going to the theme park everytime fun, then that's what it is to
>>>them...
>>
>>ha ha,let them waste their time testing all engines
>
>But it is not a waste of time to them, assuming that is all they do (we don't
>really know that now do we).
not a waste of time,yeah hobby time,i guess.
>>>>>>If you do infinite analysis with Fritz,you will improve a lot,huge deal!
>>>>>>just watching them play won't help you much
>>>>>
>>>>>I have learned a lot from both.
>>>>
>>>>come on!you dont learn a thing if you watch them battle for hours,all you have
>>>>to do is to play rated games against fritz and learn from mistakes
>
>That is one way, but not the only way.
>
>>>>how can a person learn from computer games?
>>>
>>>Well it depends if you know how to play chess or not, if you do you can learn a
>>>lot, but not the best way for beginners to learn. I am sorry to hear that you
>>>can't learn from it.
>>
>>Kasparov can't learn from computer vs computer games,other granmasters as well.
>
>How do you know this? Do you seriously think that most GM's don't own atleast
>one chess playing program?
>
>>its hilarious,that testers claim they can learn from computers play.
>>
>>let the testers play Kasparov!
>
>What is your point with that statment? ("let the testers play Kasparov!")
what?do you assume kasparov owns copies of shredder,fritz,hiarcs,junior and all
freeware stuffs and tests them?
"Kasparov doesnt watch computers play each other"
can you contradict this statement?
you are only twisting all statements.
>I have learned a lot about tactics, good pieces v bad pices,
did the engine1 tell you that its opponent engine2 has bad piece?
what software are you using?
>openings, opening
>ideas etc from watching computers play.
you only look at evalution and not at moves.
>You can learn a lot from watching 2700+
>play whether it is two computers or two humans, if this is not true to you, then
>i am sorry to hear that, but just because you can't learn from watching
>computers play against eachother does not mean that others can't.
>>
>>>>>http://www.chessgames.com is a good place to start if you want to see human v
>>>>>human games.
>>chandler and Eduard posting their own games.also test positions here is
>>interesting.
>
>Still this is about computer chess...
>If you like you can play some games against chess engines yourself and post them
>here, i for one won't mind.
allright,chandler has been banned,I miss him in CTF.
>>I have learnt,testing engines is their hobby,they dont get paid for anything,
>>they pay for engines and test and report them.programmers update engines,again
>>testers buy another copy,test them and report.
>
>Wow you seem to be getting how it works :) now add some human aspects, the
>ability to enjoy your hobby and you are almost there.
I won one copy of Fritz and 2 copies of chessmaster and some not well known
chess softwares.
I play with them.I dont let them fight and see the result.
>>I wonder what will happen to computerchess world?
>>you will get more shredders and Fritzs,thats all.
>
>And progressively stronger engines, lot's of fun testing them etc.
yeah,lots of fun buying them,testing them ,reporting the result and not getting
the reply.
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