Author: David Mitchell
Date: 12:10:33 06/07/05
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On June 07, 2005 at 08:42:14, Madhavan wrote: >On June 06, 2005 at 20:12:12, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: > >>On June 06, 2005 at 19:43:07, Mark Ryan wrote: >> >>>Some more of Chrilly's comments at chessgames.com: >>> >>>"June 1: >>>In the correspondence games Hydra-Chimeira played with own books made by the >>>sponsor. But this was not the reason for the loss. GM Nickel was in this games >>>simply better. In the sparring matches GM Lutz+Shredder&Fritz against Hydra, >>>Lutz was somewhat better than Hydra-Chimeira. But Hydra-Scylla has already a >>>slight edge over this combination. >>> >>>June 4: >>>Besides these, Hydra is not unbeatable at all. We estimate that the programm has >>>about 2950 Elo. Fritz, Shredder about 2800. 150 Elo more does not mean, that one >>>can not loose. The combination of strong human player plus Shredder&Fritz is >>>according our internal results about as strong as Hydra. >>> >>>June 5: >>>In contrast to common believe is opening theory the point where Top-GMs are >>>certainly superior to the machines. This is the part of the game the programmers >>>really fear. >>>Top-GMs do not fear the opening, but the tablebases. E.g. in human-human games >>>Queen against Rook is usually won. But it is well known, that humans have >>>considerable problems to win this endgame against a database." >> >>Again showing little insight in chess. I'm just a weak player in comparision to >>the GM's targeted here. Fidemaster is what i am. >> >>FM >>after that comes IM >>after that comes GM >> >>I didn't make it further so far than FM. >> >>However queen versus rook i win blindfolded, also against the EGTBs. >> >>The matter is not whether i use a perfect number of moves. Just win it within 50 >>moves. Reality shows that you usually are 20% off the perfect path and the last >>10 moves only 1 or 2 moves extra are needed. >> >>So in reality you always put it mate. >> >>In highschool i used to play such endgames for money. Me 1 minute on the clock. >>They 5. > >what's all this about?you talking to whom? > >this is not related to the subject. > >cut the crap,vincent. Vincent does weave in and out of strictly computer chess topics, but I find the look from his unique perspective, not only frequently on target, like this quote from Vincent: >>Hydra single handed delivers lots of money to GM's directly. But also he's giving us a look at the cc world from a completely different point of view. I do NOT find his explanations of GM fears with computer matches, to be irrelevant, or unwanted. Quite the contrary. If Vincent's comments strike you as somewhat full of himself, then I ask you to skip them, and not label them in this derogatory manner. You are not the topic police here, Madhavan, and your rudeness will not be tolerated in ccc, for long. If you disagree with a post's assertions, just argue your own point of view. Calling someone else's post "crap", seems not only unwarranted, but another example of the "those who can, do. Those who can't, bitch", syndrome. Dave
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