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Subject: Re: Shredder, Ktulu and Gandalf don't have a problem

Author: Steve Maughan

Date: 14:40:59 06/07/05

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Terry,

>[D] 6kr/5b1p/2p3pP/rpPp1pP1/pP1PpP2/P3P3/1K6/8 w - - 0 1


Ktulu 7, Gandalf 6 and Shredder 9 all play moves other than bxa5, although only
Shredder shows a drawish score.  I think Shredder has had this type of fortress
code since version 7.


Centrino 2 GHz 256 Mb of hash

Engine: Shredder 9 UCI (256 MB)
by Stefan Meyer-Kahlen

1/01   0:00   -0.28    1.Kc2 (1)

2/03   0:00   -0.28    1.Kc2 Kf8 (15)

3/03   0:00   -0.30    1.Kc2 Kf8 2.Kc3 (62)

3/03   0:00   -0.29++  1.Kc3 (80)

3/03   0:00   -0.29    1.Kc3 Kf8 2.Kc2 (86)

4/05   0:00   -0.31    1.Kc3 Kf8 2.Kc2 Ke7 (172) 10

4/05   0:00   -0.30++  1.Kc2 (184) 11

4/05   0:00   -0.30    1.Kc2 Kf8 2.bxa5 (219) 13

5/05   0:00   -0.30    1.Kc2 Be6 2.Kc3 Kf8 (343) 21

5/05   0:00   -0.29++  1.Kc3 (357) 22

5/05   0:00   -0.29    1.Kc3 Kf8 2.bxa5 (374) 23

6/07   0:00   -0.32    1.Kc3 Kf8 2.Kc2 Be6 3.Kb1 Kg8 (554) 17

6/07   0:00   -0.31++  1.Kc2 (591) 19

6/07   0:00   -0.31    1.Kc2 Be6 2.bxa5 (654) 21

7/10   0:00   -0.30    1.Kc2 Kf8 2.Kb1 Ke7 (1.065) 34

8/09   0:00   -0.31    1.Kc2 Kf8 2.Kb1 Ke7 3.Kb2 Rd8 4.Kc2 Rh8 (1.564) 33

9/10   0:00   -0.29    1.Kc2 Kf8 2.Kd1 Be6 3.Kd2 Kg8 4.Kc3 Kf8
                       5.bxa5 (2.523) 53

10/10  0:00   -0.29    1.Kc2 Kf8 2.Kd1 Be6 3.Kd2 Kg8 4.Kc3 Kf8
                       5.bxa5 (2.940) 46

11/11  0:00   -0.29    1.Kc2 Kf8 2.Kd1 Be6 3.Kd2 Kg8 4.Kc3 Kf8
                       5.bxa5 (3.765) 59

12/13  0:00   -0.30    1.Kc2 Be6 2.Kc3 Ra7 (6.120) 97

13/14  0:00   -0.31    1.Kc2 Ra7 2.Kc3 Be6 (9.694) 124

14/15  0:00   -0.32    1.Kc2 Ra7 2.Kc3 Be6 3.Kc2 Ra8 4.Kc3 Kf8 (12.956) 137

15/15  0:00   -0.33    1.Kc2 Ra7 2.Kc3 Be6 3.Kc2 Ra8 4.Kc3 Ra6
                       5.Kc2 Kf8 (16.787) 178

16/17  0:00   -0.32    1.Kc2 Be6 2.Kd2 Ra6 3.Ke2 Kf8 (29.475) 235

16/17  0:00   -0.31++  1.Kc3 Kf8 (30.149) 241

16/17  0:00   -0.31    1.Kc3 Kf8 (31.744) 225

17/17  0:00   -0.31    1.Kc3 Kf8 2.Kc2 Be6 3.Kd2 Ra6 4.Ke1 Ra7
                       5.Kf1 (43.036) 275

18/18  0:00   -0.32    1.Kc3 Kf8 2.Kc2 Ra6 3.Kd2 Ke7 4.Ke2 Be6 (54.980) 319

19/20  0:00   -0.31    1.Kc3 Be6 2.Kd2 Ra6 (89.165) 439

20/20  0:00   -0.32    1.Kc3 Kf8 2.Kd2 Be6 (105.914) 450

21/21  0:00   -0.35    1.Kc3 Kf8 2.Kd2 Be6 3.Ke2 Ke7 4.bxa5 (128.028) 481

22/22  0:00   -0.35    1.Kc3 Kf8 2.Kd2 Be6 3.Ke2 Ke7 4.Kd2 Ke8
                       5.bxa5 (149.091) 530

23/23  0:00   -0.34    1.Kc3 Kf8 2.Kd2 Be6 3.Ke2 Ke7 4.Kd2 Ke8
                       5.Ke2 Bf7 6.Kd2 (170.287) 544

24/24  0:00   -0.35    1.Kc3 Kf8 2.Kd2 Be6 3.Ke2 Ke7 4.Kd2 Ke8
                       5.Ke2 Bf7 (229.282) 611

25/25  0:00   -0.34    1.Kc3 Kf8 2.Kd2 Be6 3.Ke2 Ke7 4.Kd2 Ra6
                       5.Ke2 Ra5 6.Kd2 Ra6 7.Ke2 Ra5 (342.323) 705

26/27  0:00   -0.33    1.Kc3 Kf8 2.Kd2 Be6 3.Ke2 Ke7 4.Kd2 Ke8
                       5.Ke2 Ke7 6.Kd2 Ke8 7.Ke2 Ke7 (467.952) 767

27/27  0:00   -0.33    1.Kc3 Kf8 2.Kd2 Be6 3.Ke2 Ke7 4.Kd2 Ra6
                       5.Ke2 Ra5 6.Kd2 Ra6 7.Ke2 Ra5 (716.982) 881

28/28  0:01   -0.33    1.Kc3 Kf8 2.Kd2 Be6 3.Ke2 Ke7 4.Kd2 Ke8
                       5.Ke2 Ke7 6.Kd2 Ke8 7.Ke2 Ke7 (961.855) 932

29/29  0:01   -0.33    1.Kc3 Kf8 2.Kd2 Be6 3.Ke2 Ke7 4.Kd2 Ke8
                       5.Ke2 Bf7 (1.192.324) 965

30/31  0:01   -0.33    1.Kc3 Kf8 2.Kd2 Be6 3.Ke2 Ke7 4.Kd2 Ra6
                       5.Ke2 Bf7 (1.632.138) 1013

30/31  0:01   -0.32++  1.Kc2 (1.818.137) 1029

30/31  0:01   -0.32    1.Kc2 Kf8 2.Kd1 Be6 3.bxa5 (1.822.300) 1023

31/32  0:02   -0.31    1.Kc2 Kf8 2.Kd2 Be6 3.bxa5 (2.118.109) 1034

32/33  0:03   -0.35    1.Kc2 Kf8 2.Kd1 Be6 3.bxa5 (3.592.236) 1074

33/33  0:04   -0.41    1.Kc2 Kf8 2.Kd2 Be6 3.bxa5 (5.091.613) 1112

34/35  0:05   -0.45    1.Kc2 Kf8 2.Kd1 Be6 3.bxa5 (5.742.726) 1113

35/35  0:05   -0.45    1.Kc2 Kf8 2.Kd2 Be6 3.bxa5 (6.125.728) 1107

36/36  0:06   -0.45    1.Kc2 Kf8 2.Kd1 Be6 3.bxa5 (7.201.761) 1116

37/37  0:11   -0.43    1.Kc2 Kf8 2.Kd1 Be6 3.Ke2 Ke7 4.Kd2 Ra6
                       5.Ke2 Bf7 6.Ke1 (12.456.107) 1084

38/40  0:18   -0.45    1.Kc2 Kf8 2.Kd1 Be6 3.Ke2 Ke7 4.Kd2 Ra6
                       5.Ke1 Bf7 6.Kd2 (21.098.429) 1126

39/39  0:26   -0.48    1.Kc2 Kf8 2.Kd1 Be6 3.Ke2 Ke7 4.Kd2 Ra6
                       5.Ke1 Bf7 6.Kd2 Bg8 7.Ke2 (30.113.564) 1125


Engine: Gandalf 6.0 (256 MB)
by Steen Suurballe

7/12   0:00   -4.54    1.bxa5 Kf8 2.Kc3 b4+ 3.Kxb4 Ke7
                       4.Kxa4 Kd7 (2.415) 24

9/19   0:00   -8.35    1.bxa5 Kf8 2.a6 Ke7 3.Kc3 Ra8 4.Kb4 Rxa6
                       5.Kc3 (10.280) 102

9/19   0:00   -8.35++  1.Kc2 Ra6 (11.529) 115

9/19   0:00   -7.80    1.Kc2 Ra6 2.Kb2 Be8 3.Kc3 Ra7 4.Kd2 Rg7
                       5.hxg7 Kxg7 6.Ke2 (22.933) 229

10/23  0:00   -6.59++  1.Kc2 Ra6 (50.765) 507

10/23  0:00   -5.37++  1.Kc2 Ra6 (79.669) 398

10/23  0:00   -4.76    1.Kc2 Be8 2.bxa5 b4 3.Kb2 Bf7 4.a6 Kf8
                       5.axb4 Ke7 6.Ka3 Ra8 (107.398) 536

11/23  0:00   -6.81--  1.Kc2 Be8 2.bxa5 b4 3.Kb2 Bf7 4.a6 Kf8
                       5.axb4 Ke7 6.Ka3 Ra8 (117.080) 585

11/25  0:00   -6.43    1.Kc2 Be8 2.Kb2 Kf7 3.Kc3 Bd7 4.Kd2 Rb8
                       5.Kc3 Ke6 6.bxa5 b4+ 7.axb4 (125.866) 629

12/25  0:00   -7.48    1.Kc2 Kf8 2.Kb2 Ke7 3.Kc3 Rha8 4.Kd2 Bg8
                       5.Kc3 Kf7 6.bxa5 Rxa5 7.Kd2 (198.563) 661

13/25  0:00   -7.74    1.Kc2 Kf8 2.Kb2 Ke7 3.Kc3 Bg8 4.Kd2 Ra7
                       5.Kc3 Rd7 6.Kd2 Rd6 7.cxd6+ Kxd6 (261.342) 871

14/27  0:00   -7.80    1.Kc2 Ra6 2.Kb2 Be6 3.Kc3 Rb6 4.Kc2 Kf7
                       5.Kd2 Rhb8 6.Kc3 Kg8 7.cxb6 Rxb6
                       8.Kd2 (512.675) 1025

15/31  0:00   -7.80    1.Kc2 Ra6 2.Kb2 Be6 3.Kc3 Rb6 4.Kc2 Kf7
                       5.Kd2 Rhb8 6.Kc3 Kg8 7.Kd2 R8b7
                       8.cxb6 Rxb6 (1.142.199) 1142

16/34  0:01   -7.80    1.Kc2 Ra6 2.Kb2 Be6 3.Kc3 Rb6 4.Kc2 Kf7
                       5.Kd2 Rhb8 6.Kc3 Kg8 7.Kd2 R8b7
                       8.cxb6 Rxb6 9.Ke2 (2.182.159) 1212

17/40  0:02   -7.80    1.Kc2 Ra6 2.Kb2 Be6 3.Kc3 Rb6 4.Kc2 Kf7
                       5.Kd2 Rhb8 6.Kc3 Kg8 7.Kd2 Ra8
                       8.cxb6 Rb8 9.b7 Rxb7 (3.184.820) 1224

18/40  0:03   -7.80    1.Kc2 Ra6 2.Kb2 Be6 3.Kc3 Rb6 4.Kc2 Kf7
                       5.Kd2 Rhb8 6.Kc3 R8b7 7.Kd2 Kf8
                       8.Ke2 Kg8 9.cxb6 Rxb6 10.Kd2 (4.111.747) 1245

19/48  0:08   -7.80    1.Kc2 Ra6 2.Kb2 Be6 3.Kc3 Rb6 4.Kc2 Kf7
                       5.Kd2 Rhb8 6.Kc3 R8b7 7.Kd2 Kf8
                       8.Ke2 Kg8 9.Kd2 Kh8 10.cxb6 Rxb6 (11.743.712) 1365

20/48  0:09   -7.80    1.Kc2 Ra6 2.Kb2 Be6 3.Kc3 Rb6 4.Kc2 Kf7
                       5.Kd2 Rhb8 6.Kc3 R8b7 7.Kd2 Kf8
                       8.Ke2 Kg8 9.Kd2 Rb8 10.cxb6 Rxb6
                       11.Ke2 (13.191.642) 1359

21/50  0:12   -7.80    1.Kc2 Ra6 2.Kb2 Be6 3.Kc3 Rb6 4.Kc2 Kf7
                       5.Kd2 Rhb8 6.Kc3 R8b7 7.Kd2 Kf8
                       8.Ke2 Kg8 9.Kd2 Bc8 10.Kc3 Bd7
                       11.cxb6 Rxb6 (17.886.742) 1375

22/57  0:34   -7.80    1.Kc2 Ra6 2.Kb2 Be6 3.Kc3 Rb6 4.Kc2 Kf7
                       5.Kd2 Rhb8 6.Kc3 R8b7 7.Kd2 Kf8
                       8.Ke2 Kg8 9.Kd2 Rd7 10.cxb6 Rb7
                       11.Kc3 Rxb6 12.Kd2 (58.590.266) 1678

23/57  0:47   -7.80    1.Kc2 Ra6 2.Kb2 Be6 3.Kc3 Rb6 4.Kc2 Kf7
                       5.Kd2 Rhb8 6.Kc3 R8b7 7.Kd2 Kf8
                       8.Ke2 Kg8 9.Kd2 Rd7 10.Kc3 Ra7
                       11.Kd2 Raa6 12.cxb6 Rxb6 (76.094.298) 1588

24/60  0:55   -7.80    1.Kc2 Ra6 2.Kb2 Be6 3.Kc3 Rb6 4.Kc2 Kf7
                       5.Kd2 Rhb8 6.Kc3 R8b7 7.Kd2 Kf8
                       8.Ke2 Kg8 9.Kd2 Bc8 10.Kd1 Rf7
                       11.cxb6 Be6 12.b7 Rxb7 13.Kd2 (84.765.994) 1524

Engine: Ktulu 7.0 (256 MB)
by Rahman Paidar

6/60   0:00   -8.17    1.bxa5 Be6 2.Kc2 Kf7 3.Kc3 Ra8 (1.935) 193

7.00   0:00   -8.73    1.bxa5 Kf8 2.Kc2 Ke7 3.a6 Ra8 4.Kd2 Rxa6 (3.261) 326

8.00   0:00   -8.81    1.bxa5 Kf8 2.Kc2 Ke7 3.a6 Ra8 4.a7 Be6
                       5.Kc3 Rxa7 6.Kd2 b4 7.axb4 (6.539) 653

9.00   0:00   -8.81    1.bxa5 Kf8 2.Kc2 Ke7 3.a6 Ra8 4.Kb2 Rxa6
                       5.Kc3 Be6 (18.755) 625

10.00  0:00   -8.99    1.bxa5 Kf8 2.a6 Ke7 3.Kc3 Ra8 4.Kc2 Be6
                       5.Kc1 b4 6.Kb2 (48.218) 803

11.00  0:00   -9.02    1.bxa5 Kf8 2.a6 Ke7 3.Kc2 Ra8 4.Kc3 (94.969) 1055

12.00  0:00   -9.09    1.bxa5 Kf8 2.a6 Ke7 3.Kc2 Ra8 4.Kb2 Rxa6
                       5.Kc3 Be6 (173.565) 1020

13.00  0:00   -9.09    1.bxa5 Kf8 2.a6 Ke7 3.Kc3 Ra8 4.Kc2 Be6 (264.575) 1058

14.00  0:00   -10.67   1.bxa5 Kf8 2.a6 Ke7 3.Kc3 Ra8 4.Kc2 Rxa6
                       5.Kc3 Ra7 6.Kd2 b4 7.Kc2 bxa3 8.Kb1 Rb7+
                       9.Ka1 Rb3 10.Ka2 Rxe3 (972.878) 1186

15.00  0:01   -10.67   1.bxa5 Kf8 2.a6 Ke7 3.Kc3 Ra8 4.Kb2 Rxa6
                       5.Kc2 Ra8 6.Kc3 Ra7 7.Kd2 (1.403.108) 1169

16.01  0:02   -12.70   1.bxa5 Kf8 2.a6 Ke7 3.Kc3 Ra8 4.Kb2 Rxa6
                       5.Kc3 Ra7 6.Kd2 (3.026.467) 1146

16.02  0:03   -12.65   1.Kc3 Kf8 2.Kd2 Ke7 3.Kc3 Rha8 4.Kd2 R5a6
                       5.Kc3 Be6 6.Kd2 R6a7 7.Kc3 Rb7 8.Kd2 Raa7
                       9.Kc3 Ra6 10.Kd2 Ra8 11.Kc3 Raa7
                       12.Kd2 Ra6 13.Kc3 Rc7 14.Kd2 (4.182.658) 1191

17.01  0:04   -12.65   1.Kc3 Kf8 2.Kd2 Ke7 3.Kc3 Rha8 4.Kd2 R5a6
                       5.Kc3 Be6 6.Kd2 R6a7 7.Kc3 Rb7 8.Kd2 Raa7
                       9.Kc3 Ra6 10.Kd2 Ra8 11.Kc3 Raa7
                       12.Kd2 Ra6 13.Kc3 Rc7 14.Kd2 (4.999.981) 1204

18.01  0:06   -12.65   1.Kc3 Kf8 2.Kd2 Ke7 3.Kc3 Rha8 4.Kd2 R5a6
                       5.Kc3 Be6 6.Kd2 R6a7 7.Kc3 Rb7 8.Kd2 Raa7
                       9.Kc3 Ra6 10.Kd2 Ra8 11.Kc3 Raa7
                       12.Kd2 Ra6 13.Kc3 Rc7 14.Kd2 (7.250.182) 1194

19.01  0:07   -12.65   1.Kc3 Kf8 2.Kd2 Ke7 3.Kc3 Rha8 4.Kd2 R5a6
                       5.Kc3 Be6 6.Kd2 R6a7 7.Kc3 Rb7 8.Kd2 Raa7
                       9.Kc3 Ra6 10.Kd2 Ra8 11.Kc3 Raa7
                       12.Kd2 Ra6 13.Kc3 Rc7 14.Kd2 (9.503.220) 1193

20.01  0:10   -12.65   1.Kc3 Kf8 2.Kd2 Ke7 3.Kc3 Rha8 4.Kd2 R5a6
                       5.Kc3 Be6 6.Kd2 R6a7 7.Kc3 Rb7 8.Kd2 Raa7
                       9.Kc3 Ra6 10.Kd2 Ra8 11.Kc3 Raa7
                       12.Kd2 Ra6 13.Kc3 Rc7 14.Kd2 (12.726.631) 1186

21.01  0:15   -12.65   1.Kc3 Kf8 2.Kd2 Ke7 3.Kc3 Rha8 4.Kd2 R5a6
                       5.Kc3 Be6 6.Kd2 R6a7 7.Kc3 Rb7 8.Kd2 Raa7
                       9.Kc3 Ra6 10.Kd2 Ra8 11.Kc3 Raa7
                       12.Kd2 Ra6 13.Kc3 Rc7 14.Kd2 (17.683.845) 1162

22.01  0:22   -12.65   1.Kc3 Kf8 2.Kd2 Ke7 3.Kc3 Rha8 4.Kd2 R5a6
                       5.Kc3 Be6 6.Kd2 R6a7 7.Kc3 Rb7 8.Kd2 Raa7
                       9.Kc3 Ra6 10.Kd2 Ra8 11.Kc3 Raa7
                       12.Kd2 Ra6 13.Kc3 Rc7 14.Kd2 (25.955.193) 1144






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