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Subject: Re: can a program solve this mate in 17.5?

Author: blass uri

Date: 10:44:16 02/12/99

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On February 12, 1999 at 13:12:35, Dann Corbit wrote:

>On February 12, 1999 at 12:33:53, blass uri wrote:
>
>>8/p2q4/4pQ2/p2p4/p1pQ1K2/2p2b2/1N1N1n1p/2B4k b - - 0 1
>>
>>This is a study I composed a few years ago.
>>
>>black say mate in 17.5 against itself.
>>I used Genius3 for many hours to help me to compose and to check the endgame.
>>
>>The main line is 1...e5+ 2.Kxf3 Qh3+ 3.Kxf2 Qg2+ 4.Ke1 exd4 5.Qf1+ Qxf1 6.Kxf1
>>cxb2 7.Bxb2 c3 8.Nb1 cxb2 9.Kf2 a3 10.Nxa3 a4 11.Nb1 a3 12.Nxa3 d3 13.Nb1 a5
>>14.Nd2 b1Q 15.Nxb1 a4 16.Nd2 a3 17.Nf1 a2 18.Ng3#
>What a great problem!
>Not only is the setup interesting, but there are so many interesting
>alternatives.
>
>The best thing about watching the computer pound on this position is the
>manic-depressive evals.  Happy-Sad, Happy-Sad, Happy-Sad, Happy-Sad...
>Like watching a bouncing ball.  I did not solve it yet.  I might give it a big
>pound tonight.

I think that no program can solve it.
I doubt if a program can find 5.Qf1+

I used the next best in Genius3 for many hours to prove that there is no better
alternative for black.

I analyzed the other options of white in every move for many hours and did not
find another  win for white.

Uri



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