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Subject: Re: LCTII postion 25

Author: Dann Corbit

Date: 23:39:49 06/09/05

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On June 09, 2005 at 23:59:48, Daniel Shawul wrote:

>Bxe4 is the suggested best move at this position.
>My engine can't find it even after a very long time.
>Is it a zugzwang problem?
>[D]8/3p4/p1bk3p/Pp6/1Kp1PpPp/2P2P1P/2P5/5B2 b - -
>where can i find complete analysis of these positions?
>Daniel

LCTII is pretty sound I think.

Some things about that position:
1.  There is a wall formed that has only one door
2.  How high do you evaluate a passed pawn?
3.  Nullmove might come into play, because you trade a biship for a pawn to make
a passed pawn.

Here is crafty output:

White(1): epdpfga \lct25.epd lct25.out
PFGA: EPD record: 1   ID: LCTII.FIN.03
              time surplus   0.00  time limit 16:39 (16:39)
              depth   time  score   variation (1)
               11     0.11   0.00   1. ... Bb7 2. Be2 Bc6 3. Ka3 Ke5 4.
                                    Kb4 Kd6
               11->   0.32   0.00   1. ... Bb7 2. Be2 Bc6 3. Ka3 Ke5 4.
                                    Kb4 Kd6
               12     0.52   0.00   1. ... Bb7 2. Be2 Bc6 3. Ka3 Ke5 4.
                                    Kb4 Kd6
               12->   0.78   0.00   1. ... Bb7 2. Be2 Bc6 3. Ka3 Ke5 4.
                                    Kb4 Kd6
               13     1.02   0.00   1. ... Bb7 2. Be2 Bc6 3. Ka3 Ke5 4.
                                    Kb4 Kd6
               13->   1.39   0.00   1. ... Bb7 2. Be2 Bc6 3. Ka3 Ke5 4.
                                    Kb4 Kd6
               14     1.82   0.00   1. ... Bb7 2. Be2 Bc6 3. Ka3 Ke5 4.
                                    Kb4 Kd6
               14->   2.52   0.00   1. ... Bb7 2. Be2 Bc6 3. Ka3 Ke5 4.
                                    Kb4 Kd6
               15     3.16   0.00   1. ... Bb7 2. Be2 Bc6 3. Ka3 Ke5 4.
                                    Kb4 Kd6
               15     4.74  -0.36   1. ... Bxe4 2. fxe4 f3 3. Ka3 Ke5 4.
                                    Kb4 Kxe4 5. Kc5 Ke3 6. Kb6 Kf2 7. Kxa6
                                    Kxf1 8. Kxb5 Ke2
               15->   5.00  -0.36   1. ... Bxe4 2. fxe4 f3 3. Ka3 Ke5 4.
                                    Kb4 Kxe4 5. Kc5 Ke3 6. Kb6 Kf2 7. Kxa6
                                    Kxf1 8. Kxb5 Ke2
               16     5.57     -1   1. ... Bxe4!!
               16     6.32  -0.76   1. ... Bxe4 2. fxe4 f3 3. e5+ Kd5 4.
                                    Ka3 Kxe5 5. Kb4 Ke4 6. Kc5 Ke3 7. Kb6
                                    Kf2 8. Kxa6 Kxf1 9. Kxb5 f2 10. a6
                                    Ke2 <HT>
               16->   8.96  -0.76   1. ... Bxe4 2. fxe4 f3 3. e5+ Kd5 4.
                                    Ka3 Kxe5 5. Kb4 Ke4 6. Kc5 Ke3 7. Kb6
                                    Kf2 8. Kxa6 Kxf1 9. Kxb5 f2 10. a6
                                    Ke2 <HT>
               17    13.10     -1   1. ... Bxe4!!
               17    14.36  -1.26   1. ... Bxe4 2. fxe4 f3 3. e5+ Kd5 4.
                                    Ka3 Kxe5 5. Kb4 d6 6. Ka3 Ke4 <HT>
               17->  19.47  -1.26   1. ... Bxe4 2. fxe4 f3 3. e5+ Kd5 4.
                                    Ka3 Kxe5 5. Kb4 d6 6. Ka3 Ke4 <HT>
               18    21.42     -1   1. ... Bxe4!!
               18    24.19  -2.24   1. ... Bxe4 2. fxe4 f3 3. e5+ Kd5 4.
                                    Ka3 Kxe5 5. Kb4 d6 6. Ka3 Ke4 7. Kb2
                                    Ke3 8. Kc1 Kf2 9. Bxc4 bxc4 10. Kd2
                                    Kg2
               18->  33.05  -2.24   1. ... Bxe4 2. fxe4 f3 3. e5+ Kd5 4.
                                    Ka3 Kxe5 5. Kb4 d6 6. Ka3 Ke4 7. Kb2
                                    Ke3 8. Kc1 Kf2 9. Bxc4 bxc4 10. Kd2
                                    Kg2
               19    39.08  -2.14   1. ... Bxe4 2. fxe4 f3 3. e5+ Kd5 4.
                                    Ka3 Kxe5 5. Kb4 d6 6. Ka3 Ke4 7. Kb2
                                    Ke3 8. Kc1 Kf2 9. Bxc4 bxc4 10. Kd2
                                    Kg2 11. Ke3
               19->   1:02  -2.14   1. ... Bxe4 2. fxe4 f3 3. e5+ Kd5 4.
                                    Ka3 Kxe5 5. Kb4 d6 6. Ka3 Ke4 7. Kb2
                                    Ke3 8. Kc1 Kf2 9. Bxc4 bxc4 10. Kd2
                                    Kg2 11. Ke3
               20     1:09     -1   1. ... Bxe4!!
               20     1:20     -3   1. ... Bxe4!!
               20     3:02  -5.43   1. ... Bxe4 2. Be2 Bxc2 3. Bf1 Kd5
                                    4. Ka3 Bd3 5. Bg2 Kc5 6. Bh1 d5 7.
                                    Kb2 b4 8. cxb4+ Kxb4 9. Kc1 Kxa5 10.
                                    Kd2 d4 11. Bg2 Kb4 12. Ke1 <HT>
               20->   3:40  -5.43   1. ... Bxe4 2. Be2 Bxc2 3. Bf1 Kd5
                                    4. Ka3 Bd3 5. Bg2 Kc5 6. Bh1 d5 7.
                                    Kb2 b4 8. cxb4+ Kxb4 9. Kc1 Kxa5 10.
                                    Kd2 d4 11. Bg2 Kb4 12. Ke1 <HT>
               21     5:14  -5.73   1. ... Bxe4 2. Be2 Bxc2 3. Bf1 Kd5
                                    4. Ka3 Bd3 5. Bg2 Kc5 6. Bh1 d5 7.
                                    Kb2 b4 8. cxb4+ Kxb4 9. Kc1 Kxa5 10.
                                    Kd2 d4 11. Bg2 Kb4 12. Bh1 Bg6
               21->   7:00  -5.73   1. ... Bxe4 2. Be2 Bxc2 3. Bf1 Kd5
                                    4. Ka3 Bd3 5. Bg2 Kc5 6. Bh1 d5 7.
                                    Kb2 b4 8. cxb4+ Kxb4 9. Kc1 Kxa5 10.
                                    Kd2 d4 11. Bg2 Kb4 12. Bh1 Bg6
               22    11:22  -6.08   1. ... Bxe4 2. Be2 Bxc2 3. Bf1 Bd3
                                    4. Bg2 Kd5 5. Ka3 Kc5 6. Bh1 d5 7.
                                    Kb2 b4 8. cxb4+ <HT>
               22    12:00    2/9*  1. ... Ke7



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