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Subject: Re: LCTII postion 25

Author: Pallav Nawani

Date: 01:06:46 06/10/05

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On June 09, 2005 at 23:59:48, Daniel Shawul wrote:

>Bxe4 is the suggested best move at this position.
>My engine can't find it even after a very long time.
>Is it a zugzwang problem?
>8/3p4/p1bk3p/Pp6/1Kp1PpPp/2P2P1P/2P5/5B2 b - -
>where can i find complete analysis of these positions?
>Daniel

Although Natwarlal finds it easily, but its search is very unstable here (see
what is happening at ply 18 onwards). I think a null move problem is possible.
Try disabling NULL move when only pawns are left and see what happens. Meanwhile
I will check why Natwarlal has a unstable search here!!


  7  00:00:00  -30        3KN Kd6e5 Kb4c5 Bc6xe4 f3xe4 h6h5 g4g5 Ke5xe4

  7  00:00:00   20        5KN Bc6xe4 f3xe4 f4f3 Bf1xc4 b5xc4 Kb4xc4 f3f2

  7  00:00:00   20        5KN Bc6xe4 f3xe4 f4f3 Bf1xc4 b5xc4 Kb4xc4 f3f2

  8  00:00:00   62        7KN Bc6xe4 f3xe4 f4f3 Kb4a3 Kd6e5 Ka3b4 Ke5xe4
                              Kb4c5
  8  00:00:00   62        8KN Bc6xe4 f3xe4 f4f3 Kb4a3 Kd6e5 Ka3b4 Ke5xe4
                              Kb4c5
  9  00:00:00   86       10KN Bc6xe4 f3xe4 f4f3 Kb4a3 Kd6e5 Ka3b4 Ke5xe4
                              Kb4c5 d7d5
  9  00:00:00   86       11KN Bc6xe4 f3xe4 f4f3 Kb4a3 Kd6e5 Ka3b4 Ke5xe4
                              Kb4c5 d7d5
 10  00:00:00   84       14KN Bc6xe4 f3xe4 f4f3 Kb4a3 Kd6e5 Ka3b4 Ke5xe4
                              Kb4c5 f3f2 Bf1g2+ Ke4e5
 10  00:00:00   84       16KN Bc6xe4 f3xe4 f4f3 Kb4a3 Kd6e5 Ka3b4 Ke5xe4
                              Kb4c5 f3f2 Bf1g2+ Ke4e5
 11  00:00:00   82       24KN Bc6xe4 f3xe4 f4f3 Kb4a3 Kd6e5 Ka3b4 d7d6
                              Bf1xc4 b5xc4 Kb4xc4 Ke5xe4
 11  00:00:00   82       27KN Bc6xe4 f3xe4 f4f3 Kb4a3 Kd6e5 Ka3b4 d7d6
                              Bf1xc4 b5xc4 Kb4xc4 Ke5xe4
 12  00:00:00  108       44KN Bc6xe4 f3xe4 f4f3 Kb4a3 Kd6e5 Ka3b4 d7d6
                              Kb4a3 Ke5xe4 Ka3b4 f3f2 Bf1g2+ Ke4e5
 12  00:00:00  108       48KN Bc6xe4 f3xe4 f4f3 Kb4a3 Kd6e5 Ka3b4 d7d6
                              Kb4a3 Ke5xe4 Ka3b4 f3f2 Bf1g2+ Ke4e5
 13  00:00:00  122       88KN Bc6xe4 f3xe4 f4f3 Kb4a3 Kd6e5 Ka3b4 d7d6
                              Kb4a3 Ke5xe4 Ka3b4 f3f2 Bf1g2+ Ke4e5 Bg2f1
 13  00:00:00  122       94KN Bc6xe4 f3xe4 f4f3 Kb4a3 Kd6e5 Ka3b4 d7d6
                              Kb4a3 Ke5xe4 Ka3b4 f3f2 Bf1g2+ Ke4e5 Bg2f1
 14  00:00:00  113      159KN Bc6xe4 f3xe4 f4f3 Kb4a3 Kd6e5 Ka3b4 d7d6
                              Kb4a3 Ke5xe4 Ka3b4 f3f2 Bf1e2 d6d5 Kb4c5
 14  00:00:00  113      172KN Bc6xe4 f3xe4 f4f3 Kb4a3 Kd6e5 Ka3b4 d7d6
                              Kb4a3 Ke5xe4 Ka3b4 f3f2 Bf1e2 d6d5 Kb4c5
 15  00:00:01  136      305KN Bc6xe4 f3xe4 f4f3 Kb4a3 Kd6e5 Ka3b4 d7d6
                              Kb4a3 Ke5xe4 Ka3b4 Ke4e5 Kb4a3 d6d5 Ka3b4 f3f2
 15  00:00:01  136      319KN Bc6xe4 f3xe4 f4f3 Kb4a3 Kd6e5 Ka3b4 d7d6
                              Kb4a3 Ke5xe4 Ka3b4 Ke4e5 Kb4a3 d6d5 Ka3b4 f3f2
 16  00:00:02  148      603KN Bc6xe4 f3xe4 f4f3 Kb4a3 Kd6e5 Ka3b4 d7d6
                              Kb4a3 Ke5xe4 Ka3b4 Ke4e3 Kb4a3 d6d5 Ka3b4 Ke3f2
                              Kb4c5 Kf2xf1 Kc5xd5
 16  00:00:02  148      632KN Bc6xe4 f3xe4 f4f3 Kb4a3 Kd6e5 Ka3b4 d7d6
                              Kb4a3 Ke5xe4 Ka3b4 Ke4e3 Kb4a3 d6d5 Ka3b4 Ke3f2
                              Kb4c5 Kf2xf1 Kc5xd5
 17  00:00:04  159     1097KN Bc6xe4 f3xe4 f4f3 Kb4a3 Kd6e5 Ka3b4 d7d6
                              Kb4a3 Ke5xe4 Ka3b4 Ke4e3 Kb4a3 Ke3f2 Bf1xc4 b5xc4
                              Ka3b4 d6d5
 17  00:00:04  159     1166KN Bc6xe4 f3xe4 f4f3 Kb4a3 Kd6e5 Ka3b4 d7d6
                              Kb4a3 Ke5xe4 Ka3b4 Ke4e3 Kb4a3 Ke3f2 Bf1xc4 b5xc4
                              Ka3b4 d6d5
 18  00:00:04    8     1335KN Bc6xe4 f3xe4
 18  00:00:15    8     4932KN Bc6xe4?? f3xe4 (f4f3 Kb4a3 Kd6e5 Ka3b4 d7d6
                              Kb4a3 Ke5xe4 Ka3b4 Ke4e3 Kb4a3 Ke3f2 Bf1xc4 b5xc4
                              Ka3b4 d6d5 Kb4c5 Kf2e3 )
 18  00:00:19  169     6165KN Bc6xe4 f3xe4 f4f3 Kb4a3 Kd6e5 Ka3b4 d7d6
                              Kb4a3 Ke5xe4 Ka3b4 Ke4e3 Kb4a3 Ke3f2 Bf1xc4 b5xc4
                              Ka3b4 Kf2g2 Kb4xc4 Kg2xh3
 18  00:00:19  169     6165KN Bc6xe4 f3xe4 f4f3 Kb4a3 Kd6e5 Ka3b4 d7d6
                              Kb4a3 Ke5xe4 Ka3b4 Ke4e3 Kb4a3 Ke3f2 Bf1xc4 b5xc4
                              Ka3b4 Kf2g2 Kb4xc4 Kg2xh3
 19  00:00:20   18     6282KN Bc6xe4 f3xe4
 19  00:00:29   18     9049KN Bc6xe4?? f3xe4 (f4f3 Kb4a3 Kd6e5 Ka3b4 d7d6
                              Kb4a3 Ke5xe4 Ka3b4 Ke4e3 Kb4a3 Ke3f2 Bf1xc4 b5xc4
                              Ka3b4 Kf2g2 Kb4xc4 Kg2xh3 )
 19  00:00:41  169    13242KN Bc6xe4 f3xe4 f4f3 Kb4a3 Kd6e5 Ka3b4 d7d6
                              Kb4a3 Ke5xe4 Ka3b4 Ke4e3 Kb4a3 Ke3f2 Bf1xc4 b5xc4
                              Ka3b4 Kf2g2 Kb4xc4 Kg2xh3
 19  00:00:41  169    13242KN Bc6xe4 f3xe4 f4f3 Kb4a3 Kd6e5 Ka3b4 d7d6
                              Kb4a3 Ke5xe4 Ka3b4 Ke4e3 Kb4a3 Ke3f2 Bf1xc4 b5xc4
                              Ka3b4 Kf2g2 Kb4xc4 Kg2xh3
 20  00:00:42   18    13511KN Bc6xe4 f3xe4
 20  00:01:08   18    22154KN Bc6xe4?? f3xe4 (f4f3 Kb4a3 Kd6e5 Ka3b4 d7d6
                              Kb4a3 Ke5xe4 Ka3b4 Ke4e3 Kb4a3 Ke3f2 Bf1xc4 b5xc4
                              Ka3b4 Kf2g2 Kb4xc4 )
 20  00:02:14  224    46540KN Bc6xe4 Bf1g2 Be4xc2 Bg2f1 Kd6d5 Bf1g2 d7d6
                              Bg2f1 Bc2g6 Bf1g2 h6h5 Bg2f1 h5xg4 h3xg4 Bg6d3
                              Bf1g2 Kd5e5 Bg2h3 d6d5 Kb4c5
 20  00:02:14  224    46540KN Bc6xe4 Bf1g2 Be4xc2 Bg2f1 Kd6d5 Bf1g2 d7d6
                              Bg2f1 Bc2g6 Bf1g2 h6h5 Bg2f1 h5xg4 h3xg4 Bg6d3
                              Bf1g2 Kd5e5 Bg2h3 d6d5 Kb4c5
 21  00:02:29   73    51821KN Bc6xe4 f3xe4


Pallav



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