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Subject: Re: POLL ........Fingerprints? :-))))

Author: John Merlino

Date: 14:18:04 06/10/05

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On June 10, 2005 at 16:27:45, Günther Simon wrote:

>On June 10, 2005 at 15:54:06, John Merlino wrote:
>
>>On June 10, 2005 at 10:26:46, Christopher Conkie wrote:
>>
>>>[D]r4rk1/b7/8/8/8/8/B7/R3K2R w KQ - 0 1
>>>
>>>-----------------------------------------------------------
>>>Fantastic....yes, you are winning little engine....twice? Very funny :-))))
>>>-----------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>1. +- (4.62): 1.Bxg8 Bc5 2.Rxa8 Rxa8 3.Bb3# Ra1+ 4.Bd1 Bd6 5.Ke2 Ra2+ 6.Kd3 Rh2
>>>7.Re1 Rh3+
>>>2. +- (2.31): 1.Rh5+ Rfe8+ 2.Kd2+ Bd4 3.Bxg8 Rxg8 4.Rxa8+ Rxa8 5.Rh3 Re8 6.Rd3
>>>Bc5 7.Rd5
>>>3. +- (2.22): 1.Kd2+ Rad8+ 2.Kc2+ Kg7 3.Be6 Be3 4.Rh3 Bf2 5.Rah1
>>>4. +- (1.80): 1.Rh6+ Rfe8+ 2.Kd2+ Kg7 3.Bd5 Bf2 4.Rh5 Rxa1 5.Rh3
>>>5. ± (0.92): 1.0-0-0+
>>>6. ± (0.78): 1.Kd1+ Rad8+ 2.Ke2+ Rfe8+
>>>
>>>-----------------------------------------------------------
>>>But your friend thinks it is a draw.... :-))))
>>>-----------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>1. = (0.00): 1.0-0-0+ Kg7 2.Be6 Kf6 3.Rh6+ Ke5 4.Kc2 Bf2 5.Bd7 Rae8 6.Bxe8 Rxe8
>>>7.Rd3 Bg1 8.Kc3
>>>2. = (0.00): 1.Be6+ Kg7 2.0-0-0 Kf6 3.Rh6+ Ke5 4.Kc2 Bf2 5.Bd7 Rae8 6.Bxe8 Rxe8
>>>7.Rd3
>>>3. = (0.00): 1.Bd5+ Kg7 2.Bxa8 Rxa8 3.0-0-0 Kf6 4.Kc2 Ke5 5.Kd3 Bf2 6.Kc4 Bg3
>>>7.Rhe1+ Bxe1 8.Rxe1+ Kf4
>>>4. = (0.00): 1.Bc4+ Kg7 2.0-0-0 Kg6 3.Kc2 Kg5 4.Kd3 Bf2 5.Bd5 Kf4 6.Bxa8 Rxa8
>>>7.Kc4 Ke3
>>>5. = (0.00): 1.Bb3+ Kg7 2.0-0-0 Kf6 3.Kc2 Ke5 4.Kb2 Bf2 5.Kc3 Rae8 6.Bd5 Kf4
>>>7.Kb4 Ke3
>>>6. = (0.00): 1.Rh6+ Kg7 2.Rd6 Bf2+ 3.Ke2 Rxa2+ 4.Rxa2 Bg1 5.Rd7+ Kf6 6.Kd3 Ke5
>>>7.Kc4 Kf4 8.Kd5 Ke3 9.Ke6
>>>
>>>-----------------------------------------------------------
>>>That's right......take it......be a devil...... :-))))
>>>-----------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>1. +- (90.64): 1.Bxg8 Bd4 2.Kd2 Rf2+ 3.Kd3
>>>2. ² (0.47): 1.Bd5+ Kg7 2.Bxa8 Rxa8 3.0-0-0 Be3+ 4.Kb2
>>>3. = (0.00): 1.Kd1+ Kg7 2.Bd5 Rfd8 3.Ra5 Kf6
>>>4. = (0.00): 1.Rf1+ Kh8 2.Rxf8+ Rxf8 3.Kd2 Bf2 4.Kc2 Re8
>>>5. = (0.00): 1.Bb3+ Kg7 2.Ba4 Kf6 3.Kd2 Bf2 4.Kc2
>>>6. = (0.00): 1.Kd2+ Kg7 2.Kd3 Kf6 3.Kc3 Bf2
>>>
>>>-----------------------------------------------------------
>>>Mate in Zero.......if you say so little engine....... :-))))
>>>-----------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>1. # (#0): 1.Bxg8
>>>2. +- (1.46): 1.Bd5+ Kg7 2.Bxa8
>>>3. = (0.21): 1.Be6+ Kg7
>>>4. = (0.21): 1.Bc4+ Kg7
>>>5. = (0.17): 1.Kd2+ Kg7
>>>6. = (0.17): 1.Ke2+ Kg7
>>>
>>>===========================================================
>>>
>>>:-))))
>>>
>>>Come on then.......keep up.......fingerprints?
>>>
>>>Oh yes, my friends.....oh yes indeed.....
>>>
>>>Mate in Zero? Bxg8? ;-)
>>>
>>>Well what do you all think? Good......no?
>>>
>>>But which engines are they? Guess......
>>>
>>>Christopher
>>
>>Although this kind of stuff can be amusing, I certainly wouldn't fault an engine
>>for not knowing how to handle an illegal position.
>>
>>jm
>
>Hi John,
>
>You missed the intention of the positions - the keyword
>is *fingerprints* ...
>
>Guenther

I know the intention was for people to guess what the engines were, and the
reason that I didn't guess is because I don't have the experience to spot these
"fingerprints".

I was just making an observation. However, if this post has to do with spotting
clones (rather than just spotting how an engine attempts to solve an illegal
position), then I think it should have been made more clear in the initial post.

jm



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