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Subject: Re: The Answers To Our Quiz......... :-)

Author: Christopher Conkie

Date: 15:02:11 06/12/05

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Hello Dieter,

The point is not that b1B wins (which it does eventually. The point is that the
engine can't see that b1Q or b1R is stalemate.

It values material gain or does not understand underpromotion to a bishop.

Look here is Crafty......(an early version at well)

[D]8/8/5b2/8/K7/8/kp6/3N4 b - - 1 63

Crafty 11.23:
   7	00:01	      12.896	644.800	+4.45	b1B Kb4 Bc2 Ne3 Be4 Kc5 Be5
   7	00:01	      20.645	516.125	+4.45	b1B Kb4 Bc2 Ne3 Be4 Kc5 Be5
   8	00:01	      31.768	529.466	+4.27	b1B Kb4 Bc2 Ne3 Be4 Kc5 Kb3 Nd5
   8	00:01	      51.473	571.922	+4.27	b1B Kb4 Bc2 Ne3 Be4 Kc5 Kb3 Nd5
   9	00:01	     115.048	719.050	+4.51	b1B Kb4 Bd3 Kc5 Kb3 Ne3 Bb2 Nd5 Kc2
   9	00:01	     142.697	751.036	+4.51	b1B Kb4 Bd3 Kc5 Kb3 Ne3 Bb2 Nd5 Kc2
  10	00:01	     219.611	878.444	+4.46	b1B Kb4 Bd3 Kc5 Kb1 Ne3 Kc1 Nc4 Kc2 Kd5
  10	00:01	     297.676	930.237	+4.46	b1B Kb4 Bd3 Kc5 Kb1 Ne3 Kc1 Nc4 Kc2 Kd5
  11	00:01	     890.367	1.072.731	+4.53	b1B Kb4 Bg6 Kc4 Bg7 Nc3+ Kb2 Nb5 Kc2
Nd4+ Kd2 Kd5 Kc3
  11	00:01	   1.043.035	1.086.494	+4.53	b1B Kb4 Bg6 Kc4 Bg7 Nc3+ Kb2 Nb5 Kc2
Nd4+ Kd2 Kd5 Kc3
  12	00:02	   1.869.671	1.133.133	+4.61	b1B Kb4 Bg6 Kc5 Kb3 Ne3 Bg7 Kd5 Kc3 Nd1+
Kd2 Nf2 Ke3
  12	00:02	   2.270.105	1.158.216	+4.61	b1B Kb4 Bg6 Kc5 Kb3 Ne3 Bg7 Kd5 Kc3 Nd1+
Kd2 Nf2 Ke3
  13	00:04	   4.047.834	901.522	+4.66	b1B Kb4 Bg6 Kc5 Kb3 Ne3 Bg7 Kd5 Kc3 Ke6
Kd3 Nf5 Bc3
  13	00:05	   4.899.982	935.111	+4.66	b1B Kb4 Bg6 Kc5 Kb3 Ne3 Bg7 Kd5 Kc3 Ke6
Kd3 Nf5 Bc3
  14	00:08	   8.570.225	1.038.815	+4.65	b1B Kb4 Bg6 Kc5 Kb3 Ne3 Bh4 Kd5 Kc3 Ke6
Bg3 Nd5+ Kd4 Nf6 Kc3
  14	00:10	  11.602.501	1.105.000	+4.65	b1B Kb4 Bg6 Kc5 Kb3 Ne3 Bh4 Kd5 Kc3 Ke6
Bg3 Nd5+ Kd4 Nf6 Kc3

It understands instantly that for the game to go on it need a piece lower than a
Rook in material terms.

Do you see what I mean?

:-)

Regards

Christopher



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